You guys talk about new and old remington wingmasters. What is considered old and what is considered new?
A good question. IMHO this is on a “sliding scale”. When I was 20, in 1972, they used to say “they’re not as good as the old ones from the 1950’s”. Now its “they’re not as good as the old ones from the 1970’s”.
my dad has a 870 wingmaster he got from walmart 18 years ago, any way he wants to sell it and was talking to someone about it, this person has him comvinced that it is worth more than the same 870 walmart sells today. something about the quality of new 870s. thanks
I have been shooting them since 1972. I bought one around 1988, seventeen years ago and I would prefer the current production gun, specifically an 870 Wingmaster LC to that gun. It is one of the few 870’s I parted with.
I found the 870’s from the late 1980’s generally had poorer wood, the wood finish/fit was not as good. In addition, the early Remchoke barrels were heavier, making the gun “clubby” compared to the newer LC’s.
As for general fit and finish, the current production Wingmasters I have seen are very well done. The latest production 870's and 1100's/11-87's that have been brought out to our club seem to shoot and function just fine.
In the rare times I have needed parts and service, Remington has treated me very well, including one case they went beyond their obligations to help me out.
I have been very happy with their quality, given the price range. I am aware that some people have had bad experiences with some Remingtons, but I have had no issues with the quality of current Remington guns.
WinM12, I fully agree.
El Padrino wrote:
Out of curiosity what do you guys not like about the new 870's?
I don’t like it that I have a sufficient number of various Wingmasters and target grades that it is getting hard to come up with an excuse to buy another one
No, I don’t work for Remington and they are not a “family tradition" going back several generations for me; in fact, there was a time when I would not consider them. I have been shooting trap for 35+ years, here’s a brief summary of my relationship w/Remingtons;
1970; hated them, influenced by older, conservative shooters, to me they were the "punch press" guns with aluminium trigger guards and stampings. Not a "real gun" by any means.
1972; bought a used 870 20g Standard for a beater grouse gun, became impressed with the design fairly quickly, it earned my respect.
1976; bought the 870TB as a back-up trap gun, it quickly displaced the SKB 600 Trap o/u I had shot since 1971.
At this time 1100's were still "iffy" to me.
1984; my wife started shooting, 1100's were selected for recoil considerations. Became impressed with the 1100's as I did with the 870 in 1972.
I can afford the various "B guns" and am well aware of what is on the market. I have owned a good number of other types of guns and had occasion to shoot most of the others that I haven't owned, at least a bit.
Strangely, I have found I am more comfortable shooting repeating shotguns and that the typical Remington stock configurations and "feel" of them best suits me and I enjoy shooting them and shoot my best averages with them, so I use them