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 Post subject: Belgium Browning value
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:42 am 
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Hi, I'm new to shotgun world and I'm looking to get a ballpark value on a shotgun I own. I have posted a couple photos:

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Belgium Browning 12 gauge, serial # 101753

left side of barrel says "FULL 12 SPECIAL STEEL" 1 Kg 1 1 9 (sideways J *H, pic of something with PV under it, crown circle with ELG* inside, oval with 12-70 inside)

right side of barrel says "Made in Belgium"

left side of gun says "FABRIQUE NATIONALE D'ARMES DE GUERRE HERSTAL BELGIQUE" BROWNING PATENT DEPOSE

right side of gun just says "PV" with a few etchings

wood of gun is reconditioned, excellent shape.

Thanks for any insight!




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 Post subject: Re: Belgium Browning value
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:42 am 
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The serial number that yougave dates to 1931. Is the safety infront of the trigger?

The astrick (*) is the Browning mark for full choked barrels.

The "PV" in a circle(should have a rampant lion above it) is the proof mark that shows 150% voluntary over proof for smokless powder.

Looking at the photos,the forend looks correct but I suspect that the square buttstock is a replacement.

Value would be as a shooter. I think that I see a rib and the old style safety infront of the trigger gaurd. These are sort of offseting factors. I'd put the value in the $225-$300 area.

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 Post subject: Re: Belgium Browning value
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:39 pm 
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A5guy, I have an a-5 that has a 92,000 serial number. In stead of the 119 like the last guy mine has 069 and an "f"stamp. Also an "H" with a star above it. Has a flat grip and a front trigger safety. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Belgium Browning value
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:40 am 
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You'd probably get more answers if you started a new post on the I Love My Browning area. Be sure to tell us what gauge the gun is. A 920,000 gun in 16 ga would be a 30's gun and a 12ga with that serial number would be from the '20s.

Also, the H under a star is the inspector's mark of Christophe Woit and he worked at the Liege Proof House from 1934 until 1968. The barrel may be a replacement.

The "f" mark would indicate the gun was from 1927. That would jive with the 920,000 serial # of a 12ga gun.

The flat grip is probably a replacement on a 1927 gun. The second series safety, in front of the trigger, would be correct for a pre-WWII A5 made after 1909.

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 Post subject: Re: Belgium Browning value
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:04 am 
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Sorry, I forgot to put that it is a 12 guage. Thanks for the info. The serial number isn't 920,000, It is 92,000. The serial numbers all match, including on the barrel, so I'm pretty sure the barrel is the original. Do you have any idea what the "069" means?




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