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 Post subject: Revelation .410 bolt action
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:13 am 
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I just got a revelation .410 model 330A bolt action shotgun. It is a western auto co. From what I can gather it was made by mossberg, but I can't find out much more. Can anyone help?


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 Post subject: Re: Revelation .410 bolt action
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:48 pm 
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http://www.4-10.freeuk.com/

Try this sight. They might be able to help you out.

I never considered a bolt action 410. I recently purchase one of those Winchester 9410. I love that lever action 410. I have taken a lot of squirrels with mine this year. I plan to deer hunt will it. Its also alot of fun on the skeet range. What are you going to do with a bolt action 410? I have a buddy of mine that loves British 303 enfields and has one that has been converted to 410. But its a single shot since the 3 inch 410 won't fit in the 303 magazine. It an unusual weapon.

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 Post subject: Re: Revelation .410 bolt action
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:25 pm 
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McBirch, what's wrong with this site?

JimC it's either a mossberg 183 or 183K
- .410 bore, bolt action shotgun, 2 or 3 shot mag., various screw-on or C-Lect choke on some models, mfg. 1948-85.
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 Post subject: Re: Revelation .410 bolt action
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:58 am 
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Sorry MarlandS,

I did not mean to insult shotgunworld or its readers and moderators. :oops: I figured since jimc already had found Shotgunworld I did not need to mention it again. :wink: Its just I found that other site and it was dedicated to 410 and I found some useful information there when I was looking for info on the 410. I thought I would pass it along. It was not ment to say it was better or anything like that just somewhere else to look.


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 Post subject: Re: Revelation .410 bolt action
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:18 pm 
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No biggie McBirch, I was just giving you a hard time. If there are resources out there with better/ extra/ or just plain different info it's ok to send folks out looking. Besides we all know they'll be back to the real site for shotgun info ;)

But next time could you give us a chance to answer first? :D

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 Post subject: Re: Revelation .410 bolt action
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:36 pm 
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Mcbirch:
The .410 shotgun is too light to be reliable for deer. That's why most if not all shotgun deer States prohibit its use. A 20 guage is the minimum that should be used on deer.
Jim


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 Post subject: Re: Revelation .410 bolt action
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:37 pm 
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Mcbirch:
The .410 shotgun is too light to be reliable for deer. That's why most if not all shotgun deer States prohibit its use. A 20 guage is the minimum that should be used on deer.
Jim


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 Post subject: Re: Revelation .410 bolt action
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:28 pm 
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italiansport wrote:
Mcbirch:
The .410 shotgun is too light to be reliable for deer. That's why most if not all shotgun deer States prohibit its use. A 20 guage is the minimum that should be used on deer.
Jim


Jim,

I would have to respectfully disagree. :? The Remington Slugger is a 1/5oz slug moving at 1830fps. That is more muzzle energy than the hottest 357 Remington loads.

Remington Slugger
Velocity
0 yds =1830 fps
50 yds = 1335 fps
100 yds = 1040 fps
Energy
0 yds =654 ft-lbs
50 yds = 348 ft-lbs
100 yds = 211 ft-lbs

Remington 165 JHP
Velocity
0 yds = 1290fps
50 yds = 1189fps
100 yds = 1108fps
Energy
0 yds = 610 ft-lbs
50 yds = 518 ft-lbs
100 yds = 450 ft-lbs


Now no one would scoff at hunting whitetail with a 357 revolver as long as you keep the ranges reasonable. The 357 holds its energy at longer ranges than a 410 slug does but as long as you limit the range the 410 is a perfectly capable deer gun.

I have check my state game laws and here in Ohio the 410 firing a single round ball or rifle slug is allowed. I plan to hunt deer with my 410 this year. I have a Winchester 9410 Traditional lever action 410 and over sand bags at the range that shotgun will shot a 5-shot 2 inch group at 50yds. 8) I am very confident with the gun and have hunted with almost nothing else since I got it 10 months ago. My father and uncle’s farm that I will be hunting on is mostly covered with brush and heavy oak stands. I have rarely had opportunity to take a shot at a deer longer than 50yds and would not try it with the 410. The 410 is definitely not to much gun but if you place your shot well and don’t ever extend the range it is sufficient. I’m a bit tired of getting hammered :x by my BPS with slugs and that 410 is so nice to carry I just got to give it a try this year. Not to mention the interesting conversation I might have if I run into a Game Warden and he thinks I am using a 30-30 (Rifles are not allowed in Ohio) :lol:

Matt


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 Post subject: Re: Revelation .410 bolt action
PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:59 pm 
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Mcbirch:
This is still marginal in my opinion and the 357 magnum is also considered "acceptable but low end" in States that have a handgun season. I expect that as long as you hunt within the constraints you've list above you'll be ok.
However: Let me give you another scenario. You're hunting with your .410 and and the buck of your dreams is crossing in front of you at about 100 yards. This is a very makable shot with a 12 ga but no one responsible would try it with a 410. My point here is why handicap yourself.
I personally like the smaller guages for upland bird hunting and I've had good success with the 410 on quail. I admit that carring a 5 lb. gun and the lighter ammunition makes for an easier day afield especially as we get older.
Jim


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