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 Post subject: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super magnum
PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:51 am 
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I have a Remington 870 Express Super Magnum. I got it in OCT 05. Last week was really the first time I had a chance to use it. I went to a sporting clay shoot and had some difficulty ejecting the shotgun shell (usually on the 7 or 8 shot). I did notice that when it did "jamm" that the barrel was fairly warm to touch. I was using Winchester Universal loads (dram 3, shot size 8 ). I took the gun home cleaned it and then test fired 10 rounds. Again the shells "jammed" on the 7 or 8 shot. Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? Are the winchester universal loads crap? Should I be using another brand to shoot with and if so what would you guys recommend?




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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:16 am 
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Try different ammo. :D


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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:21 am 
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I forgot to say I did try federal ammo. The shot gun did work a lot better but some shots were still jamming a slight bit.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:03 am 
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OK, a off the wall thing I was told by a acquaintance in relation to a express model 870 and rough chambers.
He relayed to me of a friend of his having trouble when the barrel got warm and the empty hull would stick to the chamber wall.
The fix was to polish out the chamber a bit making it harder for the soft plastic hull to stick.
I don't know if this is the answer to your problem but it makes good sense if you think about it. :?

:idea: If the gun works fine when the barrel is cold but starts to "grab" when it's warm it might just be the answer? :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:26 pm 
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I am just trying to get some suggestions before I drive 2 hours to a Remington Service center to get it fixed. The closest and only one where I live is in Saskatoon. It's still on waranty.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 7:35 am 
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After a thorough cleaning of the action, cycling the bolt back and forth a couple hundred times will do wonders in loosening things up and eliminate the minor binding or resistence you're experiencing.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:30 am 
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happened to mine, get your brass bore brush and put it in a drill, soak it tatally in a powder solvent and stick it in the chamber while spinning it at a high speed, then some abraisive compound and spin fast for about 5 seconds, then more solvent, then a polish, your chamber will look like mirrors and they'll be as smooth as glass. it worked for me.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
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I am not saying a thing! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:41 am 
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My cousin has the same problem with his Express when it gets hot. They are bad for that.

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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:34 am 
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do an at home polish job and shoot about a 1000 rounds of various ammo thru it.
even my vintage wingmaster will hang up with some of the cheapest of the cheap loads and have to give it a hard yank on the pump action, but the winchester cheapy universal loads work fine in all of my SG's incl. my express. they saved on the polishing and fine fitting of parts so that the end user can just do all that by shooting it a lot.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:12 pm 
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Yeah, just go shoot $200 worth of ammo to break in that $250 gun LOL :D

Seriously, that ammo seemingly causes a lot of problems.

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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:28 pm 
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I'm proud of you A5! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
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Cckoonie, It was really tough..... but I held back. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:43 pm 
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I just looked at the remington website most FAQ and the min dram is 3 1/4 to get proper cycling of semi automatic shotguns.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:32 pm 
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Send it back to Remington, poor QC=chamber too tight=unhappy customer. but they keep sending them out of the factory that way. {P^

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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:32 pm 
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jlkanaconda wrote:
I just looked at the remington website most FAQ and the min dram is 3 1/4 to get proper cycling of semi automatic shotguns.


Semi-auto? Rem.870 Super Mag. is a pump!


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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:34 pm 
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870 Expresses are famous for having rough chambers which cause just the kind of problems you are having. Put a brass bore brush in a cleaning rod, wrap some steel wool around the brush, and chuck the rod in an electric drill. Saturate the brush and steel wool with solvent and polish the chamber. Neither the steel wool nor the brush can harm the chamber so polish it liberally. That should smooth the chamber sufficiently for reliable functioning. If you still have trouble, get some J-B Non-Embedding Bore Cleaning Compound ( Brownell's has it) and use that in place of the solvent. Good luck and let us know how things work out for you.


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 Post subject: Re: 12 gauge Winchester Universal Loads/870 express super ma
PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:40 am 
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If he doesn't have it fixed by now, he isn't going to fix it. This thread was 5 years old before jlkanaconda bumped it last week.

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