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 Post subject: Dragon's Breath
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:08 pm 
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A while back someone mentioned "Flame thrower" founds for a shotgun,and showed and absurd picture of a man in the woods firing one.Well low and behold I found a page on wikipedia that explains these strange shells. Do you think they could have anti-tank purposes?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Breath

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:10 pm 
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Nope! They are just a curiousity! Do not fire them in the barrel of a gun you wish to keep!

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:11 am 
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Reverend Db wrote:
Nope! They are just a curiousity! Do not fire them in the barrel of a gun you wish to keep!


The Dragons Breath will not hurt your barrel. It will start fires, burning everything in its path, but your barrel will be fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
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When I worked security, my crazy a$$ boss kept some flamethrower rounds in the shotty he kept in his trunk (He always seemed to get his hands on "interesting" toys). Not sure why in hell he had them loaded in his SG. Not like he would ever have a use for them at any of the posts we worked (granted he was a crazy Vietnam vet. which is where I assume he was introduced to much of the crazy stuff he did) If my memory isn't completely crapped out he was a tunnel rat in some type of special forces squad. He wouldn't talk about it unless he was drunk. Of course I also learned bomb detection and how to clear buildings working for him (we had some really rough posts).

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:40 am 
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I always thought Dragon's Breath was what you woke up with, after a long weekend of party to harty. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:24 pm 
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:shock: I'd love to try them!

But ya gott go WY OUT in the boonies to shoot 'em :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:33 pm 
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I live "way out" in the "Boonies". :wink: I still think Dragon's Breath would be a good anti-tank/anti-helicopter weapon.

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
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I live "way out" in the "Boonies". :wink: I still think Dragon's Breath would be a good anti-tank/anti-helicopter weapon.


I would think a RPG would a minimum requirement on both of those.

"Dragon's Breath" wouldn't do more than burn the paint on a modern main battle tank

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
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I mean you jump on the tank and fire through the little higed door.

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
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most helicopters are actually quite unarmored(apart from say the russian Hind). Most veterans will tell you heli's can be taken gown by small arms fire (not a veteran myself - and not for lack of trying... long story) A lot of the U.S. mil heli's have been armored in recent years as new designs take the place of older ones. The fact remains though, unlike a tank, a heli that has any hope of maneuverability has to be relatively light. Keep in mind folks I'm not saying a single small arms hit to the hull will take down a chopper :roll: :lol: In other words, I seriously doubt any shotgun shell would be a reasonable tank or helicoppter stopper. Besides, I really don't want to be close enough to an enemy tank to have to shoot it with my shotty :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
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Libertarian Man! wrote:
I mean you jump on the tank and fire through the little higed door.


ROFL. :lol: Funniest thing I've heard all day. Thanks, man.


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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:15 pm 
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That's what I do,I MAKE EM' LAUGH! Or I destroy them with information. :wink: When I say "destroying a helicopter" I mean as troops are roping downward you have someone act as a distraction and then SET THEM ABLAZE!!! :twisted: MUWHHAAHHAAA! Sorry, somewhat lost myself.

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:17 pm 
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I read a story not long ago, about some dude who was playing with these and left them in his HD gun, did not tell his wife who had to use it in a HD situation... shot a a guy who was 75% in the home, one leg out the window...

Lost her TV, drapes, etc. etc. trashed her room basically everything crisped up, and the bad guy got away (with prolly the biggest fight/flight reflex-rush of any man on earth, and more than just singed pride)

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:59 pm 
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you don't need an RPG to take out a helicopter

I'm fairly certain a .50 will do the job




























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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:56 pm 
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I found a website that sells a whole bunch of exotic types of shotgun shells. INCLUDE DRAGON'S BREATH. 3 DRAGON'S BREATH SHELLS FOR $19.99!! They also sell armor piercing rounds that are legal in florida(my home) :D . Sadly the fire starters are not :(. But then again I don't think we want some redneck burning down the woods next to our highways. need I remind you of what happened when we had a severe drought.

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:05 pm 
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Something I have learned from study of guerrilla warfare. You don't engage a tank when it is gassed up and rolling towards you. You engage it when the doors are open and the crew is outside going peepee and stretching their little legs.

Same with a helicopter. :D

Show me a man who thinks it's cool to fight head on and I'll show you someone who's never seen a support weapon emptied into a crowd.

Novelty ammo is just that, a novelty. Fun to talk about and play with but in the end, stick with 00 and slugs.

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
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What about explosive/armor piercing slugs? :D

www.firequest.com

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 Post subject: Re: Dragon's Breath
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:33 pm 
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http://www.firequest.com/catalog/trminatormoreinfo.html

:lol:

Best f*cking junk science I have ever read! 95% lethality? Seriously, that can't be quantified.

Seriously, novelty sh*t is all it is. 00 buck and slugs. Go read about vietnam era advances in shotguns and ask why we aren't using more of that now?

Bottom line=it doesn't work that well. Flechettes don't do enough damage, they just penetrate and leave little holes. And anyone who uses junk science like that to sell hollowpoint slugs is INSULTING MY INTELLIGENCE!

Invest in Hornady TAP or Federal Flight Control 00 buck and don't worry about it.

For the price of 3 of those fancy shells plus shipping I can get a 5 pack of 00 buck and a box of 7 1/2 for practice fodder/clays.

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