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 Post subject: 391 Gas valve system
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:23 am 
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I have tried several time to get the gas valve system apart with no luck. It seems I can't get a good grip and torque on the little tools they include. I have about 1750 rounds through it and would like to clean it thouroughly. Any ideas on loosening it up and extra tools that have worked getting this thing apart?

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 Post subject: re: 391 Gas valve system
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:08 am 
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had a wrench for the gas valve nuts. I could not find it :oops:
Call them for an e-z'er way to git er done.

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 Post subject: re: 391 Gas valve system
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:38 am 
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It's not on the Cole site anymore, but they probably still have them. Another shade tree gunsmith trick is to wrap a cloth around the barrel to protect it. Put a set of vise grips on one nut and another on the top nut and then rotate the top nut. Do not over tighten the vise grips and be careful not to scratch the barrel.


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 Post subject: re: 391 Gas valve system
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:48 pm 
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Thanks for the info. I will contact them and let you guys know what they say.

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 Post subject: re: 391 Gas valve system
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:26 pm 
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Coles doesn't have the gas valve wrench on their website, but they still sell it. I called and purchased one a couple of months ago.

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 Post subject: re: 391 Gas valve system
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:31 pm 
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Make sure you put either some greese or anti sieze on the threads before putting the gas nuts back on. Do the same thing for the threads of the magazine cap.


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 Post subject: re: 391 Gas valve system
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:35 pm 
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can someone post a picture of the tool that Cole sells?


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 Post subject: re: 391 Gas valve system
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:00 pm 
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I use a Wondersocket and I like it. http://www.wondersocket.com/
NOTE: This is not the same thing that is sold under the name of "Wondersocket" at Lowe's or Home Depot. This one is especially designed for the 391. Click the link above!

It works with a 1/4" rachet, and I think it must be easier to use than Cole's wrench, which has a sliding T-bar. Of course, you need the rachet to go with it.

Breaking the lock nut loose the first time should not require a special socket, though. I didn't have much trouble with mine, using the factory wrenches (junk) but if yours are too tight for that I should think the vicegrips would do the job.

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 Post subject: re: 391 Gas valve system
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:56 pm 
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I just remembered something.....

There is a gunsmith named Dan Suggs who sells what looks like an improved version of the Wonder Socket.

Dan Suggs, Sporting Shotgun Services 753 Everist Dr Aberdeen MD 21001 410-688-1514, Fax 410-272-7775, sportingshotgunservices@hotmail.com

I saw it at a table that Suggs set up at a big SC shoot. It looks like a Wonder Socket with a short shaft in the center, that would go down into the tube that the nuts screw onto. That should help hold it in place as you screw off the .....whatever you call it - you know, the part that takes a lot of screwing off........ I started to buy one, but then I looked at the price tag...............

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 Post subject: re: 391 Gas valve system
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:34 am 
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That is the kind of info I was looking for. Thanks.
Nick


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 Post subject: re: 391 Gas valve system
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:01 pm 
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I can second the wordersocket option as an excellent choice. I was unable to remove mine until I tried it. Even with the socket I had a hell of a time the first time but, now after applying anti-seize, it is not a problem.




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