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 Post subject: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:34 pm 
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To those of us that had no choice at the time but a dual palm swell neutral stock,

Have any of you switched to the new factory sporter stock #3 with dedicated cast, more toe out, Offset?

How do you like it? It is this or custom or a new gun.-Kolar as they make a cfd stock that looks like it will fit the bill.

BTW at the end of the day, it is me, not the gun. :D




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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:50 am 
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Hello, I’ve had both the #3 with dual palm swells and the new style rollover dedicated right hand #3. The new rollover is much more comfortable to shoot plus the wrist radius is more pronounced. I believe Krieghoff started to make the dedicated stocks because they see many Krieghoff’s with custom stocks like Wenig and S&S. The new Krieghoff #6 is very close to the Wenig “New American” style. I had a Kolar with an adjustable 6002 stock and it was very comfortable. Your mileage may very.


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:43 am 
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Thank you. Perfect.


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:32 am 
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The new #3 also has a bit more Drop-at-Comb than the old, which most sporting shooters prefer. With the added cast it is generally a better option if you have the choice. Of course a custom stock is even better...

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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:02 pm 
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so i asked about this very thing and was told many people can't tell the difference between the two in so far as fit is concerned.

not the case?


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:26 pm 
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I like the #3 current version. Works very well for me


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:01 pm 
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birdhunter39 wrote:
so i asked about this very thing and was told many people can't tell the difference between the two in so far as fit is concerned.

not the case?

A newer shooter probably cannot. An experienced shooter, definitely.

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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:11 pm 
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JacksBack wrote:
birdhunter39 wrote:
so i asked about this very thing and was told many people can't tell the difference between the two in so far as fit is concerned.

not the case?

A newer shooter probably cannot. An experienced shooter, definitely.


To me, they’re VERY different.


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:55 pm 
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Would you stick with the Schnabel, albeit new design or go with a parcours forearm


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:34 pm 
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bgnmi wrote:
Would you stick with the Schnabel, albeit new design or go with a parcours forearm


If you've got a parcours barrel, get the parcours fore-arm as it is a great overall shape for sporting clays. But know it will not fit over a regular sporting barrel unless you have the barrel channel opened up.

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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:41 pm 
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birdhunter39 wrote:
so i asked about this very thing and was told many people can't tell the difference between the two in so far as fit is concerned.

not the case?


I can't speak with regard to a #3 stock, but I can tell you that with a #6 stock the difference between the older neutral cast stock and the RH stock is very noticeable. I need a lot of cast off - I shoot a K80 Pro Skeet with the RH #6 stock, and I had Krieghoff inlet the stock to give me as much additional cast off as possible.


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:59 pm 
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So I sent the pkg to the Krieghoff certified Gunsmith. Not being coy but I prefer to settle the whoe thing first then I will give a shout out, if appropriate

1 receiver, 2 barrels, one 12/8 rib fixed choke 32. The other parcours.

Work-swap old dual palm swell fror new config,lefty #3. Put parcour foreend on parcours barrel
Fit, bed new stock.

I have 2 beaver tails and will custom alter 1 to start (me) and rechecker (someone not me) for standard sporting

think then i have the machine


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:36 pm 
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On its way back. 2 day turnaround. Cannot wait.


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:08 am 
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Congrats! Enjoy the new mounts and let us know how you get along ;)

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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:15 pm 
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I got it. It is just awesome. I have never had a factory stock so perfect. Well worth it.
The offset, toe out and overall dimensions are just perfect with the standard sporting barrel

Shooting it later this week. Dupont did another amazing job, and so easy to deal with.


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:22 pm 
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So you have the new standard sporting stock #3 with both types of barrels? And the parcour barrel works for you with the #3 sporting stock?


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:39 pm 
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With new stock, 32 fixed sporting barrels, angled trap forearm about 9lbs but balances differently. Balance on the hinge pin. Old one was just in front of pin. Adjustable comb hardware adds some weight

With new stock, parcours barrels and parcours forearm, very fast. Balance is on the set screw behind hinge pin. I have another stock custom, for the parcours set up but like the factory forearm better.

I am shooting these later in the week so will see.

May have some barrel done to the sporting barrel to shave some ounces but bit by bit


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:35 pm 
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What Birdhunter was alluding to is you will need a significantly lower comb height for the par barrel as compared to the regular sporter barrel, like on the order of 5mm or around 3/16" lower.

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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:03 am 
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Heard.

I am going to pair the sporting with sporting barrel

and Parcours barrel with custom stock but with factory forearm.

Shot both configs for a while and see what happens.


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 Post subject: Re: #3 stock vs dual palm swell neutral
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:15 am 
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Ah, understood!




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