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 Post subject: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:12 pm 
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Working on refinishing a 1953 vintage model 12. This gun, as well as others I’ve done, has a lot of oil staining in the grip area.

Any tips as to how to lift that oil out ? Goes too deep for sanding. The Citristrip I use pulls some out, not much. Others I’ve done I’ve just put up with it, it doesn’t affect the finish I don’t think.

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Oh, and anyone else just can’t keep themselves from putting a little sparkle on when refinishing a gun ?

This one just had a butt plate on and the LOP was little short so I put a 5/8 inch Limbsaver on.
Anyone know if the factory stocks had the same LOP with a plate as with a pad ?

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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:20 pm 
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Id try the citra strip again. Lightly sand the area then coat with the stripper, place into a large zip lock bag and let it work for 24 hours or more.


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:48 pm 
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icyclefar wrote:
Id try the citra strip again. Lightly sand the area then coat with the stripper, place into a large zip lock bag and let it work for 24 hours or more.



Thanks, I gave that area another layer and wrapped it in Saranwrap.


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:50 pm 
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Acetone bath for at least 24 hours.


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:53 pm 
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How about Whiting?

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tool ... d1133.aspx


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:24 pm 
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First day of the year and I’ve already learned something.

Looking to be a very good year. Hope I haven’t peaked.


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:54 pm 
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McFarmer wrote:
First day of the year and I’ve already learned something.

Looking to be a very good year. Hope I haven’t peaked.

Link to Whiting and instructions
https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tool ... d1133.aspx

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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:57 pm 
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As have I.Gonna get a jug next order.


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:34 pm 
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McFarmer if you use the whiting report back. This is new for me too. I wonder if you need to do whole stock too so as to have an even starting color.


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:08 pm 
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Am I correct in thinking "whiting" is simply CaCO3, or lime, or chalk ?


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:29 am 
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McFarmer wrote:
Am I correct in thinking "whiting" is simply CaCO3, or lime, or chalk ?


It may be but don't have any on hand to see what it says. Contact Brownells technical group and pose the question to them, they may be able to answer.


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:22 am 
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McFarmer wrote:
Am I correct in thinking "whiting" is simply CaCO3, or lime, or chalk ?

Highly likely, because that is what it was a century+ ago, BUT, times change.

Much more specialized materials are used for that testing nowadays.

Still, that will NOT remove nearly as much oil as a solvent such as the aforementioned Acetone Soak will, not hardly.

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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:44 am 
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Still, that will NOT remove nearly as much oil as a solvent such as the aforementioned Acetone Soak will, not hardly.


I would guess the same, but it seems that whiting has traditionally been the recommended way to remove oil and grease that has soaked into gunstocks. Maybe solvents also remove other things and might damage wood? I'm not claiming that to be true... just throwing it out there.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:26 am 
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Remove the finish and soak it in stoddard solvent or naphtha outdoors, then let it thoroughly dry. Worked great for me.

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 Post subject: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:56 am 
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I have used Diatomaceous Earth. My Sister in Law has a pool so I went over and begged a coffee can’s worth.

I dunk the head of the stock in Acetone and then bury it in the DE. I usually have to repeat the process.

I also have a can of Whiting from Brownells I’m not sure I’ve used it.

You don’t have to do the whole thing. It does not leave a noticeable line in the wood. It looks like it will but by the time you clean it up, steam out dents and sand it the lines are long gone.

The Whiting can says it is Calcium Carbonate. It says to mix it with Trichloroethane. I’m not a chemical guy so I don’t know what those are.

I have to admit I’d dunk the stock in acetone for a couple days before I moved on to whiting. But I have a plastic container with a lid that seals tight for soaking stocks. Acetone is nasty. You don’t want to breathe it. And if you do it you would want to do it outside where there is plenty of ventilation as it is flammable.

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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:46 am 
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I think acetone could be found locally, out here in the sticks. The local paint store might have the whiting.

I’ll unwrap it today and see how to go from there.

Unrelated——I missed my chance at the big buck bedding down in the grove yesterday afternoon.

After target practice with the .50 cal ML I didn’t run a couple dry patches through the bore after cleaning.

Yep, the sabot pushed a small quantity of bore butter down and the powder didn’t go off very well. The bullet landed about 15 yards out. The buck laughed and ran back into the CRP. Hopefully I didn’t scare him enough to move on. Season lasts eight more days.


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:26 pm 
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The solvent to use with whiting is acetone or MEK. Alcohol is not a good oil solvent, so don't waste your time. Don't worry about the toxicity of acetone. It is the major ingredient in finger nail polish remover and your body makes it in small quantities as a by-product of your metabolism. Just don't inhale the vapors intentionally. It is exempt from the VOC regulations imposed by OSHA. MEK works better as an oil solvent because it evaporates slower than acetone and is a more powerful solvent. It is toxic when inhaled, so use it outside and stay upwind. Both are flammable so use some common sense.

Either solvent works well for oil extraction, but it will take multiple applications for oil soaked
wood.

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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:59 pm 
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With the talk of various chemicals I looked under the workbench and found an old can of stripper. I tried it and the results are what I wanted. I left the stripper on under a bag for about six hours, scraped it off then washed it.

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Amazon has this Bix Stripper

Don’t know if it is the strength of this old stuff or not.

Thanks everyone for the help.


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:03 pm 
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Well you’ve got at least two terrific solvents for oil: methylene chloride and toluene. The acetone isn’t bad either except that it’s an amphoteric molecule.

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 Post subject: Re: How do I get this oil out of the stock ?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:08 pm 
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casonet wrote:
The acetone isn’t bad either except that it’s an amphoteric molecule.



Right, that’s what I was thinking. (Shrug)




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