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 Post subject: help removing barrel from winchester 1400
PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:28 pm 
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I have a near new condition winchester 1400 12 g that was my granddad's. When I got it several yrs ago, the cocking handle would not budge...stuck in closed position. I put it in the safe and that's where it's been until today... decided to take it out and try to correct the problem. Started to disassemble and the barrel will not separate from the receiver. It only moves about an 1/8" which is the play from pulling/pushing on barrel after the trigger assembly was removed.
I have another 1400 that I pulled from safe and disassembled it with no issue...removed magazine cap and barrel slid right off...cannot figure out why the other one won't???
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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 Post subject: Re: help removing barrel from winchester 1400
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:07 am 
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Glued on by WD40 between the barrel extension and the receiver.

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 Post subject: Re: help removing barrel from winchester 1400
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:23 am 
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Wow...nothing in my post referred to WD40...but I'll bite...so how do I break the bond if that in fact is what is holding barrel to receiver?


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 Post subject: Re: help removing barrel from winchester 1400
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:39 am 
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If it was mine and since you have the trigger group out; I would turn it upside down and use a liberal amount of good rust remover/penetrating oil, throughout the action. Hold the barrel slightly down so the oil does not run all over the stock and let it sit overnight.

Since you say you can get the barrel to move less than an inch, I would start by putting oil down the barrel first. Work the barrel back and forth that little bit that it will allow. If you can, you might try tapping on the barrel where it goes into the receiver with a non marring hammer such as rubber or plastic. No need to get too forceful.

Now turn the gun upside down and secure it with the barrel at a slight down angle. Of course this presumes you can verify that it is not loaded. After that do the action as I indicated above and see if the penetrating oil does not free up the area of the barrel extension that is stuck.

I like the product sold in the WD 40 Specialist Line called Rust Release Penetrant Spray. It has really worked well for me but Kroil, PB Blaster, Liquid Wrench or any number of others may also suffice. Note this is the WD 40 Specialist Line not the normal WD 40.

I suspect the bolt's locking bolts are stuck inside the barrel extension but the fact you can move it a bit makes me doubt that some. I think the Model 1400 used a rotating bolt head. Maybe it is stuck in the area of the barrel ring where it goes around the magazine tube. If it does not free up after the treatment of rust remover in the receiver you may try getting some into that area of the barrel ring. No excess force-just easy does it!

Please report back what results you get. Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: help removing barrel from winchester 1400
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:34 pm 
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Thanks for the tips...will try now...have PB Blaster and will let you know.


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 Post subject: Re: help removing barrel from winchester 1400
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:29 pm 
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mandoman: check for PM just sent.


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 Post subject: Re: help removing barrel from winchester 1400
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:25 am 
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mandoman wrote:
Wow...nothing in my post referred to WD40...but I'll bite...so how do I break the bond if that in fact is what is holding barrel to receiver?

When I had to Unglue Dad's Model 11R a couple decades back, I almost reached the point of loading it and shooting it. The barrel reciprocates when fired, or would eventually. :mrgreen:
Long Recoil Auto-5 copy.

As it was, I managed to break it loose essentially "mortaring" the gun, Repeatedly lifting by the barrel and driving the butt onto the floor (carpet) until it finally broke the glue seal.
Took like 15 or 20 shots, as I said, I was just about to go get ammo and go outside.

There was a strip of hard WD40 Varnish about 1/2" wide by 2" long, between the barrel extension and the receiver, basically dead center at the top.

Took a good bit of solvent soaking and hard brush scrubbing to dissolve and destroy that varnish deposit.

I am not the WD40 fan my father was, It has it's uses, none of which involve guns.
Break Free CLP doesn't glue mine (or his) together while being stored.

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 Post subject: Re: help removing barrel from winchester 1400
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:31 pm 
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Wonder if the OP ever got that barrel off? mandoman can you give us an update yet?




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