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 Post subject: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:37 pm 
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I want to try going without a front bead on one of my shotguns, but I'm not enthusiastic about seeing the open threaded hole. For a temporary plug I thought I'd just fill it in with some black grease. If I like how the gun shoots is there a way to obtain a threaded plug for the hole? It's a Beretta 686.



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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:31 pm 
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Set screw? Trimmed black rubber plug?

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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:16 am 
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Drip some black crayon wax in the hole. Steve!


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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:31 am 
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Those are good ideas. I'll most likely start out with the black grease or wax.

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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:56 pm 
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3'12 wrote:
Drip some black crayon wax in the hole. Steve!

Would that be the new "flesh" color?

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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:26 am 
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T-Pee wrote:
3'12 wrote:
Drip some black crayon wax in the hole. Steve!

Would that be the new "flesh" color?

tp (down with the times)


You are obviously in need of some sensitivity training.


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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:30 am 
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Set screw is the pro way to do it. I have a kit of gunsmithing screws that help with this sort of thing. But I can see how the screw would be smaller than it would be easy to find.

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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:35 am 
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lossking wrote:
T-Pee wrote:
3'12 wrote:
Drip some black crayon wax in the hole. Steve!

Would that be the new "flesh" color?

tp (down with the times)


You are obviously in need of some sensitivity training.

True story:

Was having a discussion with a friend about oversensitive people.
I stated, "Oversensitive people don't affect my insensitivity."
It's on a t-shirt that was made by that friend for me.
Picture on request.

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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:45 am 
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Auldthymer wrote:
Set screw is the pro way to do it. I have a kit of gunsmithing screws that help with this sort of thing. But I can see how the screw would be smaller than it would be easy to find.


This is the way I would go if I decide to keep the bead off. My gunsmith has neatly plugged mid-bead holes with a nice flush set screw.

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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:09 pm 
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lossking wrote:
T-Pee wrote:
3'12 wrote:

You are obviously in need of some sensitivity training.

True story:

Was having a discussion with a friend about oversensitive people.
I stated, "Oversensitive people don't affect my insensitivity."
It's on a t-shirt that was made by that friend for me.
Picture on request.

tp


I’d like to see it. Gonna post the pic here or do you want my email?

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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:33 pm 
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Behold.
I got the quote slightly wrong (haven't worn the shirt for a while) but the sentiment is accurate.
Apologies for the thread drift.

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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:34 pm 
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Nice!

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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:33 pm 
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Would go good with a MAGA hat!


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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:50 pm 
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lossking wrote:
Would go good with a MAGA hat!

Indeed it would but I'm usually armed so therefore normally eschew looking for trouble.

tp (and a modicum of common sense)

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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:02 pm 
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The idea of removing the front site is fine idea. The idea is to focus on the target, not the bead.
I shoot clays and have hi viz front beads. I could not tell you what color they are. Focus on the target [birds or clays] not the barrel. For clays mount your gun and drop the entire gun slightly and focus on the bird or further out, FOCUS.


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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:47 pm 
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If you need a tiny set screw, model train/plane etc. stores have tons of them. Most are probably metric.


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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:01 pm 
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richg99 wrote:
If you need a tiny set screw, model train/plane etc. stores have tons of them. Most are probably metric.


Good to know, thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:05 am 
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I remember years ago shooting trap one day. As I shot, something just "felt" different about my shooting..My stance, my mount,, I couldnt ever put a finger on it.
After the first round (i had a good score) Someone said something about my shooting improving.. I told that guy,, that I felt uncomfortable that day, that something was different.. We continued to talk,,and he looked at my gun in the rack,, he sid " Your front bead is gone"! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:40 am 
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Just a follow-up. I dripped wax from a black candle and scraped it flat. Did the trick.

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 Post subject: Re: Plugging the front bead hole
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:02 am 
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Talented "old school" master gunsmiths make their own screws and pins when necessary.

I just watched one being made about a week ago for a missing screw on a barrel sling swivel on an imported German sxs. Pretty cool. Removed and measured the remaining set screw in barrel swivel fixture for head size, length, diameter and thread pitch. Chucked up some round metal rod in in a lathe and turned it down to thread diameter, leaving a head. Constant measurements by caliper. Cut off for length and shape head with file and sandpaper. Cut a screwdriver slot in head with fine file. Tap and die set used to make the metric threads and cut hole to accept them. Touch of Oxpho Blue on that polished slotted screw head once done. Voila. Installed into sling swivel fixture on lower rib. New screw indistinguishable from the original remaining screw. Took maybe 20 to 25 minutes.

If I wanted the sling swivel fixture removed completely he would have made two threaded studs to fill the old screw holes in the bottom rib. One threaded stud like that would fill an empty bead sight.

I have heard of smiths making metal parts like this but I had never seen it done in person until last week. Pretty damn cool.




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