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 Post subject: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:09 pm 
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I posted this on the Official CG Forum but figured I'd try it here also.

Anyone bought and installed this on their stocks? Did it reduce recoil?
Worth it - or not?




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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:59 pm 
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BobFM wrote:
I posted this on the Official CG Forum but figured I'd try it here also.

Anyone bought and installed this on their stocks? Did it reduce recoil?
Worth it - or not?


It reduces recoil no more than its weight: it is primarily for balance, to suit your preference.

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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:43 am 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
BobFM wrote:
I posted this on the Official CG Forum but figured I'd try it here also.

Anyone bought and installed this on their stocks? Did it reduce recoil?
Worth it - or not?


It reduces recoil no more than its weight: it is primarily for balance, to suit your preference.


Hey Randy,

Not sure what you mean by "reduces recoil no more than its weight"? Though helpful with balance I thought the springs inside the balancer help mitigate the recoil?
Would a Kick-Ease work better?


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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:17 am 
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BobFM wrote:
Though helpful with balance I thought the springs inside the balancer help mitigate the recoil?


They do not.

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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:27 am 
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Hmmm, ok when I called CG yesterday to ask about a problem I was experiencing with the comb hitting my cheek, I also inquired about what else can be done to reduce recoil. And one of the things he mentioned was this balancer as well as a different recoil pad. Their website offers almost zero info about it.


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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:01 pm 
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The DTS Kinetic Balancer is an elegant way to add weight, in increments, to the buttstock, for the purpose of fine-tuning the balance of the gun to suit your preference, not for significant recoil reduction.

As far as your cheek hitting the comb, that is 100% stock fit issue, not a recoil issue. Your adjustable comb needs to be adjusted.

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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
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RandyWakeman wrote:
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The DTS Kinetic Balancer is an elegant way to add weight, in increments, to the buttstock, for the purpose of fine-tuning the balance of the gun to suit your preference, not for significant recoil reduction.

As far as your cheek hitting the comb, that is 100% stock fit issue, not a recoil issue. Your adjustable comb needs to be adjusted.


Thanks for the clarification Randy.
As I mentioned in another post I’m pretty sure it was my sloppy gun mount that caused the cheek slap.

But to reduce recoil generally I’m thinking of going with a 1oz rather than a 1 1/8 ox shell and MAYBE changing to a Kick Eeeze pad


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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:36 pm 
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BobFM wrote:
RandyWakeman wrote:
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The DTS Kinetic Balancer is an elegant way to add weight, in increments, to the buttstock, for the purpose of fine-tuning the balance of the gun to suit your preference, not for significant recoil reduction.

As far as your cheek hitting the comb, that is 100% stock fit issue, not a recoil issue. Your adjustable comb needs to be adjusted.


Thanks for the clarification Randy.
As I mentioned in another post I’m pretty sure it was my sloppy gun mount that caused the cheek slap.

But to reduce recoil generally I’m thinking of going with a 1oz rather than a 1 1/8 ox shell and MAYBE changing to a Kick Eeeze pad


The change to 1 ounce payload is probably the best change you can make to reduce your recoil with no change to the gun required. Definitely would be the first thing I would do. Run with that for a bit and then evaluate.

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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:22 pm 
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[/quote]The change to 1 ounce payload is probably the best change you can make to reduce your recoil with no change to the gun required. Definitely would be the first thing I would do. Run with that for a bit and then evaluate.[/quote]

Yep, I'm going to do just that.


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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:17 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
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The DTS Kinetic Balancer is an elegant way to add weight, in increments, to the buttstock, for the purpose of fine-tuning the balance of the gun to suit your preference, not for significant recoil reduction.


Final question - I'm assuming adding the weight in the stock will make the barrel "feel" lighter - helping with swing?


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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:46 pm 
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Not really. It just balances the gun to your preference.

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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:58 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
Not really. It just balances the gun to your preference.


Hmmn, it's one of things I'm guessing you need to try out to see if it works for you.
How does someone even think to benefit from this; that's there's something lacking in the base stock? Unfortunately you have to buy it to try it.


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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:09 pm 
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The DTS Kinetic Balancer functions as a gun balancing and a recoil reduction system. The system allows you to add 4.25 - 7 ounces in 1.41 ounce increments. The weight can be adjusted forward or backwards to fine tune the balance of your gun.


See: https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 4&t=253079

RickM46 wrote:
I installed the Balancer in my Guerini and went with 2 of the weights first.
I found that installing the weights forward on the shaft gave me better recoil reduction - about the same as my 12 ga semi-auto.



Also see: https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 2&t=455550

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I have an Ascent Challenger 30" with tube set. I have the kenetic balancer installed in my stock with all 3 weights on the shaft. You can use it with 1,2, or all 3 weights on the balancer. When my tubes are not in I put my barrel weights on towards the muzzle end of my barrel and it feels like my tubes are in. Same feel. If I move the barrel weights half way or close to the forend I can speed up my swing. I think it's a great system. Very adjustable. Oh and I hear no movement of the balancer and my weights never fall out.

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 Post subject: Re: DTS Kinetic Balancer
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:04 pm 
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RickM46 wrote:
I installed the Balancer in my Guerini and went with 2 of the weights first.
I found that installing the weights forward on the shaft gave me better recoil reduction - about the same as my 12 ga semi-auto.



Also see: https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 2&t=455550

2500 HD wrote:
I have an Ascent Challenger 30" with tube set. I have the kenetic balancer installed in my stock with all 3 weights on the shaft. You can use it with 1,2, or all 3 weights on the balancer. When my tubes are not in I put my barrel weights on towards the muzzle end of my barrel and it feels like my tubes are in. Same feel. If I move the barrel weights half way or close to the forend I can speed up my swing. I think it's a great system. Very adjustable. Oh and I hear no movement of the balancer and my weights never fall out.
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