Just a heads up. If anyone is on Facebook, Caesar Guerini has an Owners Group started on there. Looks like there's quite a few Guerini shotgun owners on there conversating. Worth checking out...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2588544301419895/

Looks like there's one for Fabarm Owners too... https://www.facebook.com/groups/2998471513508721/

Yes. And as I mentioned on another board, whatever you do... don't post anything, or answer any comments that may show Caesar Guerini, Fabarm, or Syren in any negative light.
You will be booted instantly.

I answered a couple of questions posed by another user, describing some trouble my girlfriend had with both her Syren L4s and her Syren Tempio Sporting and I was booted from the group and sent a chastising message about it.

My girl and I have five Caesar Guerini/Syren guns between us. Love them.
However, do not mention anything negative, or any problem/issue you may have had in their 'official' group.

First mistake is having a Facebook personal account

To this claim about posts get deleted...

I'll say this much. Some guy was on the Syren group calling people from their company "idiots"... Then posted photos of his broken Beretta all over the comments. My wife saw those and couldn't believe it. And if that's what you're talking about getting deleted, then it makes 100% perfect sense to me. On what planet is a brand going to let someone talk crap and call them idiots? I have zero problem with that.

Funny thing is... even after all that, this guy wasn't even banned. He's back on there posting. So what's the issue again??

And yes, there are posts on the CG group and Syren with people having some issues and the company is on there and offers advice and tries to help. Or asks them to call in for help. So I'm sorry, but I'm calling BS on this.

I went back and reread those posts to make sure, so maybe you need to do the same, as your vision and reading comprehension may not be that great. Not once was the word “idiot“ used, nor was Caesar Guerini or Syren called disparaging names.
I’ve seen those same photos, and they were shown as just examples of what happens when a tang screw breaks. It was common with the Beretta 690 and 692, yet not something typical with other brands, specifically Caesar Guerini. Therefore odd that I’ve now seen it on a few Syren/CG models.

One thing I have always admired about the CG forums on SGW is the civility, even when in disagreement, that the posters use in responding to each other. I'd hate to see us lose that. MAJ

Agreed.
It’s been really tough at times, as I just want to scream out at what a jacka$$ some people are. Some particular people just seem to WANT and NEED to argue, just for the sake of arguing.
At times, I have failed and ended up not being so civil.
However, I have gone back in some instances and corrected myself.
At times, I realize that "I" can be the jacka$$.

We all belong to a sort of club for the more discerning shotgun owner. We're special.

We are special, while we often disagree, personal attacks are rare. And when asked for, good advice is given. Why I remember one English gentlemen advising me as to whether my socks go over my breeks or my breeks go over my socks when I was getting ready to go to a "dress like you are in the highlands" sporting clay shoot. MAJ

Wow, awfully defensive there cflanon. Easy there pal. Anyhow, this wasn't meant to stir the pot. Just stated some observations. Sorry gang if it caused an uproar. The keyboard warrior stuff is just a pet peeve of mine. Probably from decades in customer service where I've met my share of difficult personalities. Just never been a fan of airing out a grievance with a company on the internet. But I digress... Moving on.

Love the community on the boards BTW. I enjoy it too MAJ. "special" yeah that's a good word for us

Right..." we`re special "....anybody remember the term " stuck up "? Just kidding, everybody!

Me, I was raised by Old Southern Family sugar plum b!tches, who never raised their voices or used vulgarity. But they could eviscerate you with a look and a word. MAJ

The part about eviscerations with a look and a word? My Mama! Steel magnolia personified.

Tide, no one has ever been able to load so much guilt into the word "disappointed" as those women. MAJ

Mary Anne,

So just in case I get invited to a "proper" driven pheasant shoot; which is it? I am going to say it should be socks over breeks. I don't want to embarrass my loader, Percival.

Lord Allhatnocattle

FWIW, just so happens that I called and talked to CG USA yesterday afternoon. They could not have been more helpful, forthcoming and welcoming. I have no complaints with the gun, nor with the support and service. Honestly, I wish I could expect the same level of courtesy and open discussion with some other vendors. They are not unique in that regard, as there are plenty of good companies out there. It's just that there are also plenty that suck in supporting their product, and CG is not one of them.

Oh dearie me. First the proper name for Percival is "gun valet." According to my field fashion advisor Trickster, the socks are pulled over the breeks, and then folded down. If you are wearing boots, the fold goes over the top of the boot. Really very practical, pulling the socks over the breeks helps keep the breeks from riding up, and folding over the top of the boots keeps water out of the boots. MAJ

This is all VERY strange to an old country boy from south Alabama that grew up chasing quail with his daddy and a bird dog named Joe through the briers and brambles of his grandfather`s farm with a 16 gauge Stevens 311 sXs! I don`t recall paying too much attention to where my socks were and what they were pulled up over...or not. What the hell`s a " breek" anyway? And we sure didn`t have a " gun valet" !

"Breeks" are the shooting pants that buckle just below the knees. Actually pretty practical for rainy weather and fairly high grass as they don't get wet, and if you aren't wearing boots, you just have to change your socks.

And being as you're from Alabama, my Tidal friend, you are probably more used to varlets than valets.

Did you ever hunt quit from mule-back? MAJ