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 Post subject: NEED INFO ON American Arms Inc York MODEL SXS
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:45 pm 
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Any info on a american arms inc york model 12 ga sxs ? I think this a spainish gun but not sure I would like any info you may have on the maker, Is this model good or bad?




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 Post subject: Re: american arms inc york sxs
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Pretty sure it is made by Hermanos Zabala'. I believe it is the same gun as a Churchill Windsor I which in 12 ga., a nice one can be had for $350 if you watch for them.

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 Post subject: Re: american arms inc york sxs
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:47 pm 
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Thanks Patriot the York model I am looking at has double tiggers any problems with those guns I sould beware of?


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The York was renamed the Gentry. Two triggers are best; quicker choice of barrel and far less problems. Could be wrong, but I think H. Zabala was also the mfg. Haven't heard any bad about the guns. Zabala did make the later Brittany which was single trigger. Book says the York was introduced in 1986, chrome bores and 3" chambers but I don't shoot 3" anything. It can use 2 3/4" shells also.

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 Post subject: Re: NEED INFO ON American Arms Inc York MODEL SXS
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I have a York made in 1988 (H2 code) by Zabala Hermanos. Also have the catalog and price list for 1989/1990 that lists it as a Gentry. Retail price for the 12ga Gentry 26” was $499 then!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:09 pm 
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Pretty old thread but would that be safely used with steel shot?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:40 pm 
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Not at all with steel shot. It was not designed or proofed for steel.
Why would you want to use steel in an Upland double?


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 Post subject: Re: NEED INFO ON American Arms Inc York MODEL SXS
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Didn’t say I wanted to. Just asking. But just so you know, more and more hunting areas require non-toxic shot. There are alternatives to steel of course but it is a fair question to ask about the use of steel in an American Arms side by side.

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 Post subject: Re: NEED INFO ON American Arms Inc York MODEL SXS
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If you need to shoot steel shot you need a modern gun for it, or risk damaging it.
Yes, there are a few guns that you can get away with shooting small steel shot, a few more with opened up chokes. Light Spanish doubles are not a good prospect.
Yes, I know of areas requiring non-toxic shot.
Bismuth is a good choice for the 2 or 3 boxes a year hunter with a vintage gun.


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1980’s era products are now vintage? Guess you schooled me.

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Sorry your feelings were hurt. You are the one who had to ask if you could shoot steel.


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 Post subject: Re: NEED INFO ON American Arms Inc York MODEL SXS
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Is this forum not the place to ask shotgunning questions?

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 Post subject: Re: NEED INFO ON American Arms Inc York MODEL SXS
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:51 am 
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I gave you the short answer to your question, from my point of view.
Non-toxic shot was legally required for waterfowl starting in 1992. Even today, double shotguns are not all proofed for steel shot.
So yes, the 1980s are vintage when discussing steel shot loads.
There are many pages of discussion related to proof and steel shot on this site, which you can find with the search function. There is even specific reference to the American Arms York shotgun.
In Europe there are two standards for steel shot loads, taking account of older shotguns. Even then, there are guns where steel shot is not wise.
In N. America, we don't have that choice, unless you search out scarce European loads at the lower CIP pressure standard.
I tend towards caution.
Your choice is up to you.


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 Post subject: Re: NEED INFO ON American Arms Inc York MODEL SXS
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:26 am 
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No need to get defensive. I simply asked a question. You followed up with a “why would you want to?”. Obviously you were looking for trouble. I’m keeping it civil.

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