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 Post subject: bushings VS adjustable charge bar?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:05 pm 
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Location: Waxahachie,Texas
I have both and wonder which you all use? With the adjustable I can get it almost dead on,but it takes me sometimes 1 or 2 hours to get it set to my wishes. I may be to anal about this or I can use the mec charge bar and bushings. I compared the two today and to get the bar to equal the adjustable one I had to add 20 more pellets. This is using 7 1/2 magnum shot and 1 1/8 oz over 16.5 grains of red dot. I like the bars and bushings better because they are a lot easier to set up,but is the difference enough to worry about. On the mec bars,they were 1% light. I wanted to see how much so I added the pellets to see how far off it really was.On the powder side I can get it pretty close,so I'm not concerned about that. Would the light charge of shot really make a difference? thanks sj <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>




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 Post subject: Re: bushings VS adjustable charge bar?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:59 am 
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Location: GREAT Pacific North West
sjones,<br><br>I have never used an adjustable because when I asked about them I heard more negative and not any overwelming posative comments.<br><br>Last month at a registered continental shoot an aquaintance of mine offered me a brand new one because somewhere inbetween the start and about 750 shells he noticed his powder bin was going down too fast and after checking the charge, found it was almost double the initial setting. Because he was going to load a few thousand he ahd allowed all the shells to fall into a large box so the whole lot had to be cut open and components re-gathered. Talk about a pain in the south end of a north bound mule.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :x --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/sick.gif ALT=":x"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :x --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/sick.gif ALT=":x"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :x --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/sick.gif ALT=":x"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>My favorite trap load is 18gr of American Selsct and 1oz of shot w/ Win 209 primers. I have found this load to work in ANY 2 3/4" hull w/o being over loaded. So, I took a Mec # 32 bushing and a Dremmel tool and adjusted it to throw exactly 18 gr and it has for tens of thousands of shells. I also adjusted my shot bar for exactly 437.5 grains(1 oz).<br><br>This is just my opinion though and just like that mule everyone knows about opinions. Good luck, joe <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: bushings VS adjustable charge bar?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 4:12 pm 
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Joe,Hi.when you speak of reaming out your shot bars,are you meaning one load?say#8,how will it be if you go to 7 1/2 or 6's?does taht through it way off or are you still in the safe range? thanks. sj <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: bushings VS adjustable charge bar?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:58 am 
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sjones,<br><br>I adjusted my 1oz shot bar to throw exactly 1oz of #8 shot. Naturally if I use it for larger shot it will be slightly less. But it will be closer to 1oz than the factory hole because it was quite a bit less to begin with.<br><br>Don't get too caught up in the numbers game. When the powder companies publish loads they have considered lots of variables like powder densities from lot to lot and shot density as well. They know that a load for 1 1/4oz of #6 can be hard lead, copper plated, nickle plated, lead from China or Mexico and on and on. So the loads are published to be safe with all of these differances in mind<br><br>Like instinctiveshooter said in your other post you won't know the differance. I just wanted the most pellits I can get into a load because three more might be the differance in a 99 or 100 score. (in my dreams anyway) joe<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Adjustable charge bar vrs.--
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 6:46 pm 
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I like the adjustable bar because of the ease of changing settings. Various shot sizes in 71/2,8 and 9 can be adjusted and weighed (I weigh my shot charges)to achieve a uniform weight. The powder adjustment is also great. If using a Mec adj.bar make sure the setscrews are tight after making the adjustments to prevent movement. <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: bushings VS adjustable charge bar?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 10:00 am 
Hello I bought a Typd D charge bar off of EBay I just can't figure it out .Are there an instruction manual out there I can buy? Thanks Danny[quote][/quote]


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 Post subject: Re: bushings VS adjustable charge bar?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:20 pm 
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Years ago I bought one of the Universal charge bars. I thought that I was gonna have just one press, (MEC 600) and load 12, 16 and 20 ga shells on it. Well, as you probably know, that was not a good idea. I have at least one press for each of the gauges plus a couple more. So I never used the UC bar. I found a couple of loads for each gauge that I liked, bought the bushings and was quite happy. The other day I pulled out the UC bar cause I was gonna cook up some super light 7/8 oz 12 ga loads. Found out that I needed to buy a bunch of other junk, powder baffles and what not all. Firget it! the bushings work just fine. Loading shot shells is a whole lot more forgiving that loading for rifles. Powder charges 1% lighter that listed is no biggie, probably not even noticeable by the bird you just folded.


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 Post subject: Re: bushings VS adjustable charge bar?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:56 pm 
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I use the universal charge bar. Piece of cake to use, accurate too. Get it set, tighten the set screws and start loading. I weigh about every tenth charge (shot and powder) and never have any drift. I use a MEC 600 Jr and probably won't ever use the bushings again.




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