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 Post subject: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:37 pm 
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Can you safely vacuum up small amounts of gun powder with a shop vac?



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 Post subject: Re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:43 pm 
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Inkmann wrote:
Can you safely vacuum up small amounts of gun powder with a shop vac?

Yes, if you have to get up a spill, use a ladies stocking sucked up into the nozzle as a catch filter to save the powder for reuse. Another fine tip learned from the senior masters of frugality of SGW, my thanks to them.

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 Post subject: re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:08 pm 
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processed and pasteurized smokeless powder: sure, no problem
black powder: you might wind up looking like a scene from csi miami
twice i've had primers ignite in the vacuum while vacuuming. it kind of made me wonder what might have happened if i had a bag full of powder...


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 Post subject: re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
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Not sure what you call a small amount---- :roll: I use a whisk broom to elimnate ANY chance of ignition---We have all spilled powder.When transfering from a 8lb'er to a smaller bottle I place a cardboard beer flat under the smaller bottle to catch any spill.When filling the powder bottle use a funnel- :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:52 am 
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Inkmann wrote:
Can you safely vacuum up small amounts of gun powder with a shop vac?


Absolutely!! The key words, however, are "...small amounts...".


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 Post subject: re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:17 pm 
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Reloading manuals and powder manufactures recommend against it, but I use my shop vac for small workbench spills.


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 Post subject: Re: re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
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DEG wrote:
Reloading manuals and powder manufactures recommend against it, but I use my shop vac for small workbench spills.


I do the same, just the usual small overages or oops that end up being a few grains overall.

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 Post subject: Re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:12 pm 
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Inkmann wrote:
Can you safely vacuum up small amounts of gun powder with a shop vac?


Less that 20 grains, the primmer did not drop.

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 Post subject: re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:50 pm 
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I use a shop vac and use the trick about a womens nylon stocking that I read in one of the posts by Case. I tried it in the tube but it plugs off quickly. I took out the bag and attached the stocking over the inlet spout with a rubber band and I can suck up a couple of drops with no problem and could probably suck up a major spill and still salvage the powder. I don't know if this is entirely safe but it seems to work.
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I do it a lot of us do but ever time I do I just can't get out of my head one little thing (womans nylon stockings an static electricity).

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 Post subject: Re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
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Gunpowder, also known as black powder, is the earliest known chemical explosive. It is a mixture of sulfur, charcoal, and potassium nitrate (saltpeter). The sulfur and charcoal act as fuels, and the saltpeter is an oxidizer. Because of its burning properties and the amount of heat and gas volume that it generates, gunpowder has been widely used as a propellant in firearms and as a pyrotechnic composition in fireworks. Formulations used in blasting rock (such as in quarrying) are called blasting powder. You can read more here: https://prestivac.com/blog/how-to-safel ... gun-powder


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 Post subject: Re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:21 pm 
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Just vac it up.........no biggie.

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 Post subject: Re: re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:32 pm 
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fastfire wrote:
I do it a lot of us do but ever time I do I just can't get out of my head one little thing (womans nylon stockings an static electricity).

Static doesn't ignite gunpowder, not smokeless, not the holy black.

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 Post subject: Re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:34 pm 
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wwb wrote:
Inkmann wrote:
Can you safely vacuum up small amounts of gun powder with a shop vac?


Absolutely!! The key words, however, are "...small amounts...".

Yes indeed.

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processed and pasteurized smokeless powder: sure, no problem
black powder: you might wind up looking like a scene from csi miami
twice i've had primers ignite in the vacuum while vacuuming. it kind of made me wonder what might have happened if i had a bag full of powder...


Twice :?

I have never used a shop vac but use a hand held battery powered vac to clean up the loading bench from time to time.

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So let's say the 1 out of 1,000,000,000 chance that 40 grains of powder lights off in a vacuum....it won't explode because it isn't confined enough. It might get a bit exciting and a little smokey....worst case you ruin the vacuum.

I have been using a vacuum for small powder spills for a very long time, just as a great many folks do.

Nylons to catch the powder? Holy crap, your wallets must be structurally welded to your butts!!!

......and here I thought the only thing you should do with nylons is to help the lady take them off. :oops: :oops:

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Been using a small shop vac to clean up smokeless powder and shot for years. Never had an incident

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 Post subject: Re: Can you vacuum up gun powder???
PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:16 pm 
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Gunpowder of any type must be confined to cause an explosive combustion. A shop vac container is NOT a confinement sufficient enough to cause an explosive combustion. It may burn rather quickly, but will NOT explode in a shop vac. I've used canister and shop vacs for well over 40 years to pick up loose/spilled powder with nary an incident. I fully intend to continue to do so as long as I'm above ground and sucking air. :D

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big pattern wrote:
quartering wrote:
processed and pasteurized smokeless powder: sure, no problem
black powder: you might wind up looking like a scene from csi miami
twice i've had primers ignite in the vacuum while vacuuming. it kind of made me wonder what might have happened if i had a bag full of powder...


Twice :?

I have never used a shop vac but use a hand held battery powered vac to clean up the loading bench from time to time.

bp

If you foolishly use a canister or upright vacuum to suck up primers, they can hit the fan, detonating them if they hit just right.
An impossibly in a shop vac type machine.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:25 pm 
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I keep a "rocket blower" next to my re-loader for those pesky spills. Just to blow it out of the machine. Then I vacuum up the powder off the bench with my cordless shop-vac.



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