#00 buckshot reloading data
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Author:  bladesmith [ Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: #00 buckshot reloading data

Buckshot should be loaded in layers, so each caliber has a certain size that fits. The reason why is because the buckshot wants to go in any space above it when going down the barrel. That's why a filler is used with it also. You'll notice each gauge has a different size buck, at least factory loads do. In the 70s I was goose hunting with a 8ga O/U muzzle loading shotgun I had made. I was trying to shoot 30, 32cal round balls. The birds were decoying in at about 30 yards, and I couldn't hit anything. Got back to work and a friend showed me some photos from White Laboratories of BS that wasn't in layers and without filler to keep the shot in place as it went down the barrel. The BS would come out deformed because it was squeezing in the empty spaces and it would fly all over - no pattern at 25 yards. This only seems to happen if the shot is BS sized. I never had any luck, even with the filler and correct size BS.

Author:  geometric [ Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #00 buckshot reloading data

"I never had any luck, even with filler & correct size buckshot." Maybe something else is wrong? I think I remember you saying you have a vintage SXS, 10 ga.. What are the chokes? Not every shotgun will pattern buckshot well. There was a guy that hunted on the same club I hunted on when dogs & buckshot ruled. He earned the name "Old deer misser". One day one of the club members said (I'm paraphrasing), "Let's see what your gun is doing." So they tacked a piece of news paper on a pine tree at about 40 paces for "Old deer misser" to shoot at. It became abundantly clear why "Old deer misser" couldn't kill a deer. Only two or maybe three pellets hit the paper.
I thought buckshot was getting deformed from hitting the deer when I was in my 20's. Then it dawned on me, it was happening in the barrel. Buckshot was soft lead then & shot protectors & buffer were not in common use. The shot was getting flat sides & deformations from rubbing against the barrel & pressing against the other pellets. Buffer made a dramatic difference. Shot protection & hard pellets made it even better but you still had to have a good buckshot gun & the right size pellets. Most people that have experience will tell you that the larger pellets not only kill better, they usually also fly straighter.
I have about 5 lbs. of #4 swaged, high antimony buckshot I bought about two eternities ago for loading varmint loads. I think I will load some up in 10 ga.. I have 5, SXS 10 ga. guns if you count my Pedersoli muzzle loader. Two are Beretta model 410s, one is a Ugartechea (3.5" guns) & one is a steel barreled 2 7/8" LC Smith. I never loaded any buckshot for the Elsey
Good luck & let me know if I can help!

Author:  RMc [ Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #00 buckshot reloading data

The OP wished to use 9 pellets of 00B. The use of nine pellets is a bow to tradition. A tradition going back to the dawn of the cartridge era and the limited shell capacity inherent with black powder and the bulk smokeless powders then in common use.

As I have already noted, stacking 00B pellets (presuming an actual diameter of .325" to .33") in rows of two within a shot cup. This substantially reduces radial compression issues and resultant pellet distortion in tight chokes.

That said, I would suggest using the buffered 8 pellet data already noted above.

Or as another option, simply look up 1.25 ounce Alliant Blue Dot data with the Remington RP12 wad. The RP12 will hold 10 pellets, in a choke friendly two pellet per layer stack, within the shot cup.

Author:  geometric [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:25 am ]
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I would suggest do some experimenting, shoot lots of patterns & learn your shotgun. More is not always better! The thing that has made the biggest difference for me & my shotguns is buffer! Buckshot size depends on the intended target to a great degree. I shy away from the smaller sizes for deer these days. I have found that the larger sizes not only track straighter, they also kill better.

Author:  OldStufferA5#1911 [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:57 am ]
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2 - would the pellets and shot cup be safe (pressure-wise) passing through the choke

There is no "pressure issue" at the choke, barrel gas pressure, even on a hot Max Effort Load, is going to be down in the 2,000psi or so realm by the time a shotcup full of ANY shot (buck or bird) gets to the muzzle.

Author:  geometric [ Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: #00 buckshot reloading data

RIGHT, there is no pressure issue at the choke. There is a bridging & a velocity issue. Traditional wisdom says as long as you are shooting lead, you are o.k.. There could conceivably be a problem with very hard buckshot & very tight chokes but I don't think most of us need worry! Velocity is considered in the CIP steel shot rating system as is shot size. I think the highest rating is high performance steel or something like that.

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