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 Post subject: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:59 am 
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So every now and then I get one or two of pieces of number eight shot mixed in with the powder charge. They get caught somehow in a charge bar void and dropped into the powder drop. Any causes for concern? Prayers?




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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:06 am 
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One or two no worry. If you have a senior moment and mix up shot and powder, get a kitchen sink strainer of wire mesh at the dollar store. Powder goes thru, shot dont.
Dont ask me how I came to find out :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:19 am 
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One or two no worry. If you have a senior moment and mix up shot and powder, get a kitchen sink strainer of wire mesh at the dollar store. Powder goes thru, shot dont.
Dont ask me how I came to find out :oops:



Probably the same way I found out :oops: :oops:



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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:00 pm 
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schwantz wrote:
So every now and then I get one or two of pieces of number eight shot mixed in with the powder charge. They get caught somehow in a charge bar void and dropped into the powder drop. Any causes for concern? Prayers?

No.

No cause.

If you shoot a load with one in the powder charge, nothing special happens.

Fully unworthy of concern.

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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:38 pm 
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Forgetting to insert a wad is the most common way this happens and then it ain't one or two pieces of shot!

Kitchen strainer or the old album/ folder crease method to separate the seeds from the weed!


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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:38 pm 
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For God's sake, what sort of reloader are you using that allows shot to "get caught somehow in a charge bar void and dropped into the powder drop?"

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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:05 am 
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Perhaps it's happening more often than you are detecting?


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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:26 am 
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Many times something happens and we deconstruct a shell. Then we promptly dump the shot into the powder reservoir so we can wonder later where the shot came from.

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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:20 am 
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Curly N wrote:
Many times something happens and we deconstruct a shell. Then we promptly dump the shot into the powder reservoir so we can wonder later where the shot came from.
I had to sift the shot from my powder last evening due to this exact scenario.


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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:45 pm 
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Absolutely the kitchen strainer works. I have one that is 6 inches in diameter. A smaller one might work, but the strainer pores have to be big enough to let the powder through and small enough to trap the shot.
Just a cheapie one works. I even keep a sheet of printer paper handy to drop the powder in. A slight fold allows re-funneling into the powder funnel to the bottle, or on the scale to redo the shell, only this time WITH THE WAD! Uhhh, I am sensing that I know too much about this! :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:00 pm 
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rosiesdad wrote:
One or two no worry. If you have a senior moment and mix up shot and powder, get a kitchen sink strainer of wire mesh at the dollar store. Powder goes thru, shot dont.
Dont ask me how I came to find out :oops:


Depends on your size of powder and size of shot..........sometimes it can be the other way around

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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:29 pm 
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A couple pellets in the shot charge makes no difference.

When I accidentally dumped powder into my shot bottle, I found pouring it on a cookie sheet and tipping the cookie sheet gently did a nice job


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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:49 pm 
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Curly N wrote:
Many times something happens and we deconstruct a shell. Then we promptly dump the shot into the powder reservoir so we can wonder later where the shot came from.


Been there, done that more times than I'd like to admit,,,,,


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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:48 am 
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Win50 wrote:
When I accidentally dumped powder into my shot bottle, I found pouring it on a cookie sheet and tipping the cookie sheet gently did a nice job

That sounds familiar somehow. :idea:

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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:52 pm 
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I like the panning for gold method.
Dump in corner of small square plastic container.
Lean container towards opposite corner until shot dances to it leaving powder behind.
Now slight lean towards opening in bottle watching the shot dribble into it. If you’re a little person or have the shakes...use a funnel as BBs have ‘superball’ abilities.
Tap container corner with the powder to consolidate then on edge let the powder slide into your powder container.
Shiny smooth plastic works best....mine once held Chocolate Eclairs.
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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:23 am 
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It’s a big deal if you are weighing powder charges. Screen the shot out to get accurate powder weights

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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:05 am 
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"One or two, no worries". Is that just a hunch or have there been tests done to determine the effect?


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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:01 pm 
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geometric wrote:
"One or two, no worries". Is that just a hunch or have there been tests done to determine the effect?

Yes, I have.
If you shoot the gun even half-way level, no matter where the shot is in the charge, it leaves the gun.
IF, the shot is against the bottom of the hull, AND you shoot straight up, SOME of the shot, MIGHT, stay in the hull, 50% or less.

What "problems" do you expect to happen with a couple of shot in the bottom of a hull?

Lead shot scratch a barrel?
Back before the plastic shotcup was invented the lead shot scraped the barrel the whole way out. No "damage".

Pressure increase?
How? By what physics mechanism? Lead shot doesn't burn, doesn't even melt when exposed to 4,000*F for 3 milliseconds.

The only thing that MIGHT, conceivably happen, is IF, a "Golden BB", manages to seat itself directly, smack on top of, and down tight against, the flash hole of the primer.
I have no idea how many 10's of thousands of shells you'd have to load that way with a few shot randomly intermixed with each shot charge, but it is pretty well incalculably small.

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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:24 pm 
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"What problems do you expect to have with a couple of shot in the bottom of a hull? "
I don't know, that's why I asked the question! My guess is pretty much the same as yours but it is a guess. People make all sorts of statements they can't back up with verifiable evidence. I know if trash gets over the primer flash hole, it can cause a blooper. I'm not picking on you or anything, I would just like to know. That would be a good experiment for somebody to conduct. Place various numbers of small shot over the primer before adding the powder then check pressure & velocity. I would do it but I don't have any way to measure pressure & my chronograph is broken.


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 Post subject: Re: Shot in powder
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:45 pm 
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I do not tolerate anything mixed with the powder charge whether it causes problems or not. The fact is that there isn’t supposed to be lead shot in the powder charge. Call me anal, but that’s the way I see it. I’ve been reloading center fire and shot shells for over 50 years without one single accident because of my attention to detail. I intend to keep it that way.



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