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 Post subject: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:47 pm 
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My dad give me one in very good shape. If I bought the 410 kit. Would it be a good loader for 410 3 inch? Or would be better to sell it and buy a mec 600 jr 410 3 inch? I just want to load for squirrel and crow hunting.




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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:05 am 
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Not sure if anyone can answer except, you.


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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:00 am 
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I don't know about the .410 kit. It would probably work o.k., but I wouldn't sell the 12 ga. loader. As time goes on you will likely want other shotguns & will want the 12 ga. loader later.


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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:15 am 
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The new kit is going to cost you nearly as much as a used loader. I would just find a good used loader. That’s what I did. I’ve seen 600 juniors for as little as $75

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:44 am 
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But have you seen a 600 jr in .410 for $75? A 12 gauge is not going to do him any good. And I agree with looking for a whole reloader before buying the conversion kit.


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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:53 am 
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My 410 Sizemaster came with a separate 3" kit that must be installed to load the longer shells. If you do get a conversion kit for 410, make sure it has all you need to load 3".

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 Post subject: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:00 am 
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I have seen 600 jr models on EBay for as little as $65 in the past. Don’t recall bore size

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:12 am 
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I did the conversion on a 3.5" 12 ga Steelmaster. Ended up I had to buy a shorter rod that runs down the center column. A bit of a pain, but ultimately got it up and running. Works fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:52 am 
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casonet wrote:
I have seen 600 jr models on EBay for as little as $65 in the past. Don’t recall bore size


And most of those super cheap 600 jr are missing parts, bottles, charge bars and in poor condition.

Every great once in a while there is one, typically always 12 ga that is cheap and in good condition but not very often.

Garage sales is where I have seen and picked up quite a few cheap and good condition mecs.

Sizemaster has the benefit of the collet resizer which is a major plus in my book. And I own 600 jr, steelmaster and sizemaster reloaders. My 600 jr is a 20 gauge and I bought the stand alone super sizer for 20 gauge as I use multiple 20 gauge guns so I wanted a little more consistent resizing.


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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:18 pm 
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As an example, I have a little used 12 ga Sizemaster with all the parts that I would sell for $125 plus shipping. 12 ga is fast becoming uneconomical to reload

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:21 pm 
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casonet wrote:
12 ga is fast becoming uneconomical to reload

Unless you live in Commiefornia, like I do :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:48 pm 
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I lived there back in the 80s when it didn’t have crazy politics. It was a nice place. Glad now that I left

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:54 pm 
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casonet wrote:
As an example, I have a little used 12 ga Sizemaster with all the parts that I would sell for $125 plus shipping. 12 ga is fast becoming uneconomical to reload


Put it on eBay, I guarantee it will easily pass $200 plus and maybe higher almost instantly.

And I would agree that junk/promo ammo that goes bang is definitely cheaper and it’s fine if that’s all you want or need.

High quality and especially heavy field load or waterfowl ammo you can load for about 50% the cost of an equal shell.


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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:12 pm 
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I lived there back in the 80s when it didn’t have crazy politics. It was a nice place. Glad now that I left

I'd love nothing more than to get out of here, but my wife won't go until her dad passes, I may never get out...

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:58 pm 
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204_ruger wrote:
My dad give me one in very good shape. If I bought the 410 kit. Would it be a good loader for 410 3 inch? Or would be better to sell it and buy a mec 600 jr 410 3 inch? I just want to load for squirrel and crow hunting.


I found 16 gauge sizemaster dies 'for a song' and then converted a 12 gauge sizemaster over. I love it, it works great for me.

For the 410, I have a 600 setup for 3", as 600 setup for 2.5", and then bought the 410 supersizer. (All of these units were used and accumulated over time".) I shoot .410 from 3 differnet guns, so the supersizer was important to me.

If you truly want a 410 reloader in 3", search for the kit and set it up.

Setting up the presses, is possible, but I lost patience after a while... There are now 9 presses for 4 gauges.

I DO like the collet resizers on the Sizemaster, Grabber, and 9000g.

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster 12ga loader question
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:44 pm 
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Yes I got to get one. Here Remington long range 3 inch 4 or 6's are 18.00 at Walmart. Here federal 3 inch squirrel loads 11.00 a box. Winchester AA 2.5 100 ct #9. Walmart has a bunch of them here.




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