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 Post subject: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:42 pm 
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I’m currently loading:
Winchester AA-CF hulls
Claybuster 1078-20 wad
Universal clays 15.5 gr
W209 primer
I tried dropping 3/4 oz. shot in this load, but
The crimp was very dished and leaking shot,
Which I expected. I just ordered a bag of
Claybuster 1075-20 and will substitute them
and I’m pretty sure it will work great!
Any thoughts?
Thanks
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 Post subject: Re: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:32 pm 
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I am not a regular "skeeter", but I load 3/4 using the 3.4wad; works great. I have used both Universal and Green Dot with success.

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 Post subject: Re: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:40 pm 
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Should work better.Less recoil,more loads per bag and still breaks targets fine----what's not to like?????


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 Post subject: Re: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:27 pm 
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Going to be fine, since 20 gauge at 7/8oz is still over kill for skeet.

About the only place you may loose a target or two, is during doubles where you are slightly off timing, and may be able to get a chip with the larger working pattern off the 7/8oz shot in the fringe of the pattern instead.

Hell, I have seen 12 gauge patterns so wide and loose to try to get an extra break (chipped target), that even a center punch of the target ends up with a chippy break (what should be smokey hole left in the sky where the target used to be with dense pattern isntead).

So on that note, when you do switch over to the new load, take some time to watch your breaks (or pattern board the load) and choke up accordingly so you are still smoking targets with a center punch hits.

I bring this up, since myself, when I do get chippy breaks (read I smoke targets even in 410 on center punches), creeps in my head that I'm not centering punching the targets correctly and something is off with myself. Hence in 12 gauge since it just way over kill, leaving anything of the target behind (instead of just smoke balls even with Bio targets), would have me chewing my nails in less than a few stations that I screwing up big time on not center punching the targets in the first place.


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 Post subject: Re: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:33 pm 
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Take a look at the top of the Reloading forum, this one, the 3rd sticky down is:
The 20 gauge 3/4 oz Thread of Justice

https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 3&t=421067

Tons of info for fit, speeds, etc from a lot of posters on 20ga loads. I've got some pics on there of your load in Win AACF hulls, but with the 3/4oz CB wad, so you can see how it will work.

3/4oz is all I shoot at skeet. I load 3/4oz in 12ga, 20ga, and 28ga. Ok, I do shoot 1/2oz in 410 too ;) Works great, less recoil, more loads per pound. Other guys around me get 25s all the time with 3/4oz... me not so much, but I'm a solid 21-24 guy hehe... High 2, the curse of my existence!


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 Post subject: Re: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:07 pm 
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Go to the Alliant website, and look up WAA-HS 20 ga. loads/ Scroll down to loads for the CB-1075 wads and Green Dot loads. With the Win 209 primers, 14 gr. of Green Dot gives 1200 fps, and 14.8 gr. Green Dot gives 1250 fps.

The 14.8 gr. load is a favorite of mine even for sporting clays, and the CB-1075-20 wad is made to give perfect crimps with 3/4 oz. of shot. They work GREAT!

The 1078-20 wad you are using is deeper for 7/8 oz.of shot, and using it for 3/4 oz. will give dished crimps unless you use a paper or fiber overshot wad of the right size as a filler.

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 Post subject: Re: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:56 pm 
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I've loaded thousands of AAHS and Rem hulls with Universal powder, 3/4 oz of shot, CB 1075 wad. You can drop your powder charge back to ~14.5 gr - these run above 1200 fps on my chrono. Excellent patterns - my main skeet practice load.


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 Post subject: Re: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:45 am 
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If you wanted to work off the 1078 wads, drop a cheerio or two in the wad before the shot. That'll fill your volume and help, maybe fix, the dishing.


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 Post subject: Re: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:12 am 
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Win50 wrote:
If you wanted to work off the 1078 wads, drop a cheerio or two in the wad before the shot. That'll fill your volume and help, maybe fix, the dishing.


If you drop the Cheerio before lowering the drop tube it WILL clog the tube and cause shot stoppages in subsequent shells. Drop it on TOP of the shot in the case before moving it to the first crimp starting die.


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 Post subject: Re: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:24 am 
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I load a lot of 3/4 oz 20 ga to, also in the 12 ga for when I shoot with the skeet guys. They all shoot their sub gauge .410s and 28s, and it's my effort to try to at least throw the same amount of lead at the target. What sucks is they still shoot way better than me. :shock: :shock:

When I have just the tiniest stack issue, I have a cup full of thin card stock I've cut up in little squares (I don't bother punching them out with a round punch) and just drop one of those on top of the shot charge under the pre-crimp station. Alleviates the little dishes I was getting. Yeah, ya see a little flyer out there, but every roll crimper uses a top card too, mine is just under the fold crimp, and a lot thinner. It doesn't seem to bother the pattern at all.


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 Post subject: Re: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:06 pm 
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When loading 3/4 oz loads in the AAHS 20 gauge hulls does the claybuster 7/8 wad work a little better for fit with green dot?

that 1250 fps load is of interest to me, more so for sporting clays that skeet.

Asking out of curiosity because it is nice to have options, particularly now that component availability is probably going to be troublesome for a while.

Also curious as to experiences with universal in the 3/4 oz loads, good, bad or otherwise.

I bought a bag of the 3/4 oz wads and loaded them up in old school AA compression formed hulls with a recipe from Hodgdon using international powder. I used 8 1/2 shot and was able to shoot skeet with them they done quite fine. One of the local clubs put in a skeet field.... :D :D 8) 8)


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 Post subject: Re: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:31 pm 
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I use a 3/4 ounce load for sporting clays in 20, 16, and 12 Ga. I use the 1075 wads, I just saved my 7/8 wads for when I load a box of 7/8 shells.



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 Post subject: Re: 3/4 oz. load in 20 gauge skeet
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:04 pm 
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Quote:
If you wanted to work off the 1078 wads, drop a cheerio or two in the wad before the shot. That'll fill your volume and help, maybe fix, the dishing.

Put the cheerio in AFTER you drop the shot before precrimp. Works great!




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