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 Post subject: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:36 pm 
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So, if I am going to reload .410 and neither the 600jr. nor the Sizemaster has an auto primer feed available, is the collet resizer the only difference for the .410 shell?




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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:04 pm 
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Yes.

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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:41 pm 
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According to the MEC website, current the Sizemaster comes with an auto primer feed, and you can easily add an auto primer feed (MEC E-Z Prime) to the 600JR, and it is a very beneficial upgrade.


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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:00 pm 
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I'm not sure that's true for the .410 MECs. I just checked MECs on-line catalog and confirmed - no primer feed for either Jr or Sizemaster in .410. Having said that, I believe the Sizemaster would be more versatile since it's collet resizer will handle hulls with higher brass, like some Federals, much better than the Jr. -Ed


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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:03 pm 
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brnzbk wrote:
is the collet resizer the only difference for the .410 shell?


The answer is YES for the 410.

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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:03 pm 
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Always go sizemaster, and I own both.


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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:33 pm 
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ooze wrote:
According to the MEC website, current the Sizemaster comes with an auto primer feed, and you can easily add an auto primer feed (MEC E-Z Prime) to the 600JR, and it is a very beneficial upgrade.



I stand corrected! 8)

Thanks for pointing this out. :D


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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:55 am 
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ooze wrote:
ooze wrote:
According to the MEC website, current the Sizemaster comes with an auto primer feed, and you can easily add an auto primer feed (MEC E-Z Prime) to the 600JR, and it is a very beneficial upgrade.



I stand corrected! 8)

Thanks for pointing this out. :D


410 primer seating ram/station the tube is not wide enough to pass a primer through otherwise the tube would not fit inside the hull so none of the MEC single stage presses have an auto prime feed on the 410 models.


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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:22 am 
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The collet resizer is nice. My old 600 jr in .410 has done nicely for decades without one, but given a choice, the collet resizer would be preferable.


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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:20 pm 
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sneem2 wrote:
The collet resizer is nice. My old 600 jr in .410 has done nicely for decades without one, but given a choice, the collet resizer would be preferable.

It is much smoother and nicer, but requires more maintenance.

Always trade-offs somewhere.

I happen to use a 310, two 700's, and a Sizemaster.

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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:01 pm 
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I believe a sizing ring going the entire length of the brass be it high brass or normal, will resize the entire brass just like a collet resizer. The only difference is there's no adjustment. But then with no adjustment there's no chance some guys will set it wrong. A long wood handle makes things a whole lot easier with the Jr.

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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:42 pm 
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The problem sizing higher brass on the 600 Jr is not getting the entire length sized; it's ejecting the hull after sizing. I do not think there is an adjustment to the ejection stroke to fully eject for example Federal hulls. Maybe I'm missing something? -Ed


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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:41 pm 
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BerettaEd wrote:
The problem sizing higher brass on the 600 Jr is not getting the entire length sized; it's ejecting the hull after sizing. I do not think there is an adjustment to the ejection stroke to fully eject for example Federal hulls. Maybe I'm missing something? -Ed


Lower the deprime punch further on the bolt.


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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:06 pm 
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Thanks, I'd missed that. -Ed


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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:02 pm 
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bladesmith wrote:
I believe a sizing ring going the entire length of the brass be it high brass or normal, will resize the entire brass just like a collet resizer. The only difference is there's no adjustment. But then with no adjustment there's no chance some guys will set it wrong. A long wood handle makes things a whole lot easier with the Jr.

Yes, cut off the rubber Bicycle Grip and install the Grabber/9000 handle, VERY MUCH NICER!!!! {hs#

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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:39 pm 
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Thanks to all who replied, your advice and time are appreciated, a new Sizemaster is on the way!


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 Post subject: Re: MEC 600 jr. Mark V vs. Sizemaster for .410
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:24 pm 
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A friend gave me a Texan [ I think, not sure ] handle - looks like a snow shovel handle - tee handle with a round piece if wood in the middle. Man is it nice. Use it on my grabber.



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