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 Post subject: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:49 am 
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I am thinking about loading 28ga shells. I am familiar with Mec as I load 12 ga on a 9000gn. I cannot justify the expense for a 9000 so that leaves a 600jr Mark V, 650 N, or a Sizemaster.
The 650 N is a progressive but it does not resize. How important is that for 28ga reloading?
The Sizemaster is not progressive but does resize. It looks to be a slow procedure.
The 600jr does not have a primer drop and looks to be slower than the others.
Does anyone have any experience with the above loaders in 28ga?
Thanks for any input.




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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:02 am 
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My first choice would be the Sizemaster, second would be a 650 WITH the the Supersizer.
Yes they are slow, thats why I load them on a 9000.

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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:45 am 
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I like the size master for my 28s. I load about 3-4 boxes an hour in mine.


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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:49 pm 
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Of the choices you mentioned, I'd get the Sizemaster. I have four 28 gauges and sizing is imperative if I want to shoot the same shells in every gun.


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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:21 pm 
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The auto feeding of the primer for primer seating with the Sizemaster helps, too. Just keep a long "pipe cleaner" handy for the occasional primer hang-up in the feed tube.

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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:30 pm 
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I only shoot shells from my guns, and they're all break open guns, so the resizing never seems to be a problem. That's why my last purchase in 410 was a 650. I also have them in 20 and 28ga. Other wise it would be a Grabber or 9000. I had just bought a Jr for the 410 [ my first ] and then remembered how much I hate pulling the handle six times for one shell. I'll just buy the collet in 410 for my Supersizer if necessary. You may find it hard to find a Mec. At least I did with the 410. Good luck.

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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:32 pm 
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Finding a new one in stock would be problem number 1.You may wish to shoot another gun or even pick up those nice once fired hulls on the ground.Sizing at sometime will need to be done.The Sizemaster can easily produce five boxes an hour.Finding a used Grabbber would be my second option.The bottom line is the volume of shells you will need and the time you have to reload.


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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:20 pm 
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Looks like the safe bet is for a Sizemaster, I had a friend tell me the same.I just shoot 28ga for skeet so I don't need a lot of shells . You can actually same some $ loading 28.
I will begin my search.
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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:26 pm 
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Why not a used Grabber?

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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:42 am 
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You are making a common mistake buying a single stage for the 28 gauge.

Buy a used grabber or 9000. Once you start reloading an shooting the 28 gauge, you will find you enjoy shooting it more than any other gauge and will very soon be looking to dump your slow single stage loader.

You would be much better off selling your 12 gauge 9000 to help pay for a progressive 28 gauge loader.


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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:03 am 
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yes I would be open to a used one but where are they?
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You are making a common mistake buying a single stage for the 28 gauge.

Buy a used grabber or 9000. Once you start reloading an shooting the 28 gauge, you will find you enjoy shooting it more than any other gauge and will very soon be looking to dump your slow single stage loader.

You would be much better off selling your 12 gauge 9000 to help pay for a progressive 28 gauge loader.

That will never happen. I load 3/4oz to 11/8 loads on my 12ga loader.My first love is sporting clays and where I shoot it is a 12 ga game.


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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:22 pm 
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yes I would be open to a used one but where are they?
DEG wrote:
You are making a common mistake buying a single stage for the 28 gauge.

Buy a used grabber or 9000. Once you start reloading an shooting the 28 gauge, you will find you enjoy shooting it more than any other gauge and will very soon be looking to dump your slow single stage loader.

You would be much better off selling your 12 gauge 9000 to help pay for a progressive 28 gauge loader.

That will never happen. I load 3/4oz to 11/8 loads on my 12ga loader.My first love is sporting clays and where I shoot it is a 12 ga game.


Your claim that it "will never happen" is amusing since I have been exactly where you are and now have a 12 gauge 9000E that has been collecting dust for several years.

Once you figure out a 3/4 oz 28 gauge load will do anything a 1 oz or less 12 gauge load with do, and be a lot more fun doing it, you will likely abandon loading light 12 gauge loads and shoot more 28 gauge.

As you spend more time loading 28 gauge you will begin to realize your time is better spent saving $6 per box loading 28 gauge than saving $1 per box loading 12 gauge.

Even if you continue loading 12 gauge, it's very likely you will regret your decision to purchase a single-stage reloaded for the 28 gauge as it is an addictive gauge that you will begin to shoot more and more once you are no longer paying $10 per box to shoot it.


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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:59 pm 
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I agree with Deg about wanting a progressive reloaded very quickly. I wouldn't sell the 12ga 9000 though. I bought the 650 to save on the cost of a progressive press. The couple of years my wife, daughter, and grand daughter all shot with the 20 and 28ga guns I never found a reason to resize and all I had were 650s. But then they all shot O/Us, so the base wasn't expanding like it would with a auto. Now I had a Suopersizer given to me so any problems are quickly solved.

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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:50 pm 
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My vote is to spend for another 9000. You have one, know how to adjust and maintain it, and it will spit out 28's as fast and good as it does 12's. And for the amount you'll be saving over factory, it'll still pay for itself during the second handful of flats loaded from it.

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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:57 am 
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DEG wrote:
wrfish wrote:
yes I would be open to a used one but where are they?
DEG wrote:
You are making a common mistake buying a single stage for the 28 gauge.

Buy a used grabber or 9000. Once you start reloading an shooting the 28 gauge, you will find you enjoy shooting it more than any other gauge and will very soon be looking to dump your slow single stage loader.

You would be much better off selling your 12 gauge 9000 to help pay for a progressive 28 gauge loader.

That will never happen. I load 3/4oz to 11/8 loads on my 12ga loader.My first love is sporting clays and where I shoot it is a 12 ga game.


Your claim that it "will never happen" is amusing since I have been exactly where you are and now have a 12 gauge 9000E that has been collecting dust for several years.

Once you figure out a 3/4 oz 28 gauge load will do anything a 1 oz or less 12 gauge load with do, and be a lot more fun doing it, you will likely abandon loading light 12 gauge loads and shoot more 28 gauge.

As you spend more time loading 28 gauge you will begin to realize your time is better spent saving $6 per box loading 28 gauge than saving $1 per box loading 12 gauge.

Even if you continue loading 12 gauge, it's very likely you will regret your decision to purchase a single-stage reloaded for the 28 gauge as it is an addictive gauge that you will begin to shoot more and more once you are no longer paying $10 per box to shoot it.

Never going to happen. I have several quality 12ga guns that fit me well and recoil simply does not bother me. If you say "wait until you are old" its too late as I am already there. :lol: I shoot maybe 6-8 boxes of 28ga shells a month and the only reason I want to reload is availability. Things are scarce on the ammo shelves and I have plenty of hulls. I don't know why I even mention saving money as it (money) is not a problem in my life. Thats another advantage of getting old .


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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:32 am 
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The Sizemaster will do what you want.


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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:42 am 
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Depends on how many rounds you go through in a season. I use a 9000, load about 8,000 rounds a season for my squad. You could a new 9000 from CAC Associates for 650 bux, I got mine used for less...

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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:47 am 
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We can put this subject to rest. I just ordered a "gently used" (their words) 28ga Grabber on E Bay. The price including shipping was less than $300. Now I have to sit tight and wonder what condition it is in.
Thanks for your inputs.


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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:14 pm 
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Go with the Sizemaster.


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 Post subject: Re: Which MEC for 28ga
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:52 am 
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You will not regret getting the Grabber. I use a 9000GN and it works great. I also use Grabbers and they are great machines as well. Good luck and enjoy your new toy.




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