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 Post subject: Sizemaster alignment ...
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:49 pm 
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My 12 ga sizemaster priming station is way out of center, and I don't see any way to adjust it. Picture shows the problem. Nothing appears wrong with the top nut - it's in the round hole ...

Any suggestions?


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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:44 pm 
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Can you rotate it around drifting it towards center?
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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:56 pm 
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Look at it in relationship to the column. Is it bent?

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:30 pm 
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the size station next to it looks to be shifted over too.
I'd say that's a clue to look at the center shaft, or the top itself.


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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:47 pm 
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Your center column is not square to the base. Loosen the bolt that holds the column in the base and straighten it up.

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:58 pm 
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YevetS wrote:
Your center column is not square to the base. Loosen the bolt that holds the column in the base and straighten it up.

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I would guess this as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:02 am 
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OK - let me check. To look at it, all appears fine - and the depriming pin hits dead center.


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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
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trebleplink wrote:
To look at it, all appears fine - and the depriming pin hits dead center.


How can the deprime pin hit dead center with the edge of that die almost hitting the collet fingers on the column side of the press. See your pic and look at station #1.

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:01 am 
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Well, that's a good point - but it deprimes fine. Heading out to the shop ...


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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:42 am 
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The deprime pin seems to guide itself correctly if not tight. The re-prime has a serrated lockwasher under the top nut and it's camming up on the weld bead, causing the misalignment.

I'm not clear on how tight these should be but the lockwasher suggests it should be tight ... see pic.

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
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They are suppose to be tight. If it was my machine I would remove the station 2 punch and cut off a tooth or 2 from the lock washer so it sits flat.

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
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I'll try it - thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
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Just swap it out with a lock nut and forget the lock washer.


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southdakbearfan wrote:
Just swap it out with a lock nut and forget the lock washer.


Might be too tall and would prevent the primer feeder from sitting there correctly.

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
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Grind clearance in that weld bead and put it back together.

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^^^^^This is the correct way^^^^^

After you grind off the weld it will always be fixed.

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dogchaser37 wrote:
^^^^^This is the correct way^^^^^

After you grind off the weld it will always be fixed.



It is the correct way. I do believe more people have a bench grinder to remove the washer tooth then have a hand grinder to remove the weld. So I made a suggestion for the masses.

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
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I took a relatively thick flat washer and ground a side almost to the hole. Reassembled. Works. So I'm thinking - how did this ever work? I bought it used.


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trebleplink wrote:
So I'm thinking - how did this ever work? I bought it used.


OR, maybe it didn't and why you were able to buy it used.

Now is station 1 de-prime punch resting on some weld too??
It should be aligned with the center of the collet.

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 Post subject: Re: Sizemaster alignment ...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:36 am 
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With everything tightened up alignment looks good. Thanks to all who helped!




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