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 Post subject: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:00 pm 
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In normal times I would not have to ask this question, but these are not normal times. I switched all my 20 and 28 gauge target loads to 20/28 powder years ago, but I'm out and it seems to be unobtainable. I have lots of 12 gauge powder and would trade for a powder that will give me a good 20 gauge, 7/8oz load at 1200fps. What should I be looking for - Unique, Universal and International? Does any other powder do double duty with both gauges as well as 20/28?
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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:05 pm 
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I use Universal for my 3/4oz reloads in 20; have used it for 7/8 oz as well; same for Unique in the past. green Dot works well too.

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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:09 pm 
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In Remington hull I use 16.0gr 800-X, in a Federal hull I'm using 14.5gr International. 7/8oz #9 skeet loads CB1078-20 and Federal 209A primers. Both loads are 1200fps.


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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:43 pm 
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You can try some Winchester 572 ball powder. It has many loads for both 20 and 28ga. I never used green dot but have used 20/28 and Unique. 20/28 is also my main powder but would go for Unique as a second choice then Win 572. Again, JMO!

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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:00 pm 
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I load my 28 target loads using Longshot and I believe there are also 20 ga loads using that powder.

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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:05 pm 
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I use Universal in 20g, and in pinch in 12.


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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:38 pm 
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Green dot will load 3 gauges and is more likely to be available since it is less popular.


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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:58 pm 
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Much like Green Dot, Vectan's "A1" makes for a fantastic 3/4 ounce load :

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And for 7/8th's ounce, loading them cheap yellow Federal 'Top Gun' hulls with WAA20 wads makes a fine load at decent velocities, and for a little less velocity in taper-hull Winchester hulls :

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Get it while you still can :

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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:09 pm 
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JNW wrote:
What should I be looking for - Unique, Universal and International? Does any other powder do double duty with both gauges as well as 20/28?


Universal is similar to 20/28 and gives excellent performance in both 20 and 28. Unique works okay for both 20 and 28, but I prefer Universal. Any port in a storm.

I'm not aware of any 28 gauges loads with International, tho it is a dandy 12 and 20 gauge powder.


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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:19 pm 
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SupRdave wrote:
I load my 28 target loads using Longshot and I believe there are also 20 ga loads using that powder.


Longshot is a solid performer in 20 gauge. It's versatile and there are good recipes for lead, bismuth and HW shot types.

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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:30 pm 
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I load Longshot in 28. Usually use Unique in 20 but using up some 800x right now. Longshot will load 20 too


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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
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SupRdave wrote:
I load my 28 target loads using Longshot and I believe there are also 20 ga loads using that powder.


I use Long shot in both 20 & 28 ga


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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:16 am 
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I use Universal in my 28, 20 and 16 ga loads. Universal was one of the recommended powders for 7/8 oz target loads for use in my Kolar 20 ga Citori tubes.

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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:23 am 
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Depending on what hull you have, I’m using up a lot of Herco in 20 ga and I really like it

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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:45 pm 
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Selway has some 20/28 in stock


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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:18 pm 
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Thanks for all the ideas! Now to find me some powder.
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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
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SupRdave wrote:
I load my 28 target loads using Longshot and I believe there are also 20 ga loads using that powder.


I use long shot for my 28 and 20


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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:48 pm 
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Herco and Proreach both load 7/8 20 gauge.


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 Post subject: Re: 20 gauge powder alternatives
PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:37 pm 
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A lot of powders work in 20 ga.. I have used red dot (paper hulls & fiber wads), unique,& Herco with 7/8 oz. & have been using WSF lately. They all work with listed components if you hit the bird. Never loaded any 3/4 oz. loads & don't have a 28 ga..




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