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 Post subject: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:28 am 
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With powder choices limited to luck....I'm seeking feedback from those that have loaded 28ga. with Green Dot. Most everything I've read involves 12/20 gauges, a few 16.
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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:57 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:06 pm 
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Green Dot is usually "not recommended" for 28ga because it burns a bit too fast. Google up a powder chart showing relative burn rates in order of fastest buuning to slowest burning powders and it will place Green Dot ahead of commonly used 20/28 and Universal powders. I never tried 20/28, but Universal burns "very clean" in 28ga with higher pressure relative to say Herco or Unique which are also commonly used in the 28ga with 3/4oz shot charges.

That said, even the faster Red Dot "could" be used in 28ga. I have heard it tried using light powder charges and with 7/16 ounce lead payloads. Red Dot can" work but it is strongly not recommended because NOBODY will provide data to do so.

Some published 3/4oz Green Dot data can be found older Lyman's Handbooks, such as Lyman's #3 and possibly #4 editions. In theory it will work fine, but you might want to reduce the shot charge a bit to reduce pressure and protect against pressure spikes.

I'm away from my data library right now. If nobody else chimes in I'm sure I could find some outdated Lyman's #3 edition data for you to review.

Edit- D McMillen posted ahead of me and IMO he knows what he is talking about.

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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:10 pm 
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Here is an older post from SGW on the same topic-
https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 3&t=182733

DL Marcum knew what he was talking about also, IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:38 pm 
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Thank you both for information ...however I wasn't looking for loading Data. My question was a request for feedback from people who have loaded 28ga. with Green Dot. The only 28ga. powder I find available is Green Dot.
As my op saids above.....very little info. loading 28ga. with Green Dot ...Good...OK.....No Good?
Other 28ga. powders have a good following, good reports like 20/28, Universal. I just don't want to spend $200+ on a bad idea.
Thanks again.
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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:43 pm 
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oldthompson wrote:
Here is an older post from SGW on the same topic-
https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 3&t=182733

DL Marcum knew what he was talking about also, IMO.


OK....thanks...this was something I did not find in my search request on this site but exactly what I was looking for.
I'll blend in Green Dot with my Herco and... :shock:
yuck yuck
No Green Dot for me....
A big thanks...
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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:22 pm 
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Back before my 15 year "break" from skeet, I was loading both 20 and 28 ga with Green Dot. It was actually quite commeon. When I came back, and still had some Green Dot left, I told guys I was loading 20 ga with it, and they about blew a gasket! I missed the news about the high pressures cracking tube sets.

I continued to load it for a little bit in 28 ga. But I was loading it in Federal GM hulls, and was having stack height issues. I switched to 20/28 for both gauges, and haven't looked back.

But yes, if it is all you can get, you can load 28 ga with Green Dot, plenty of people did in the past.


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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:52 pm 
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I would suggest that you use another powder. Some of these are available if not all. Either, Win 572, Alliant 20/28, Hodgdon HS6, or Universal. I had a friend who loaded Green Dot and his loads had a weak report.


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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:46 pm 
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Thanks.....I have some Herco and Universal....saw Green Dot for sale and got the information I was looking for here.
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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:51 pm 
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I have loaded literally thousands of the following load in 28 gauge. I also used in STS/Premier hulls per the data. Never had any weak reports or any other issues. It burns very clean in the 28 gauge and is very economical to boot at only 12.0 grains/charge. The only variation was I used WW209 primers.

It was my favorite 28 gauge load and I also used it for preserve quail with a change to # 71/2 shot.

FWIW, I did not shoot a tubed gun with any of my 28 gauge loads.

3/4 1,200 Rem 209P Green Dot WAA 28 12 10,300

3/4 1,200 Rem 209P Green Dot PT-28 12 10,500 (STS, Premier hull)

Although you can go to 12.5 grains in the HS hull I never bothered and used the same 12 grain load.

3/4 1,200 Win 209 Green Dot CB 5034-HS 12.5 11,900 (AAHS hull)

If someone told me I had to use Green Dot to load 28 gauge, I would say, "please don't throw me in that briar patch". :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:03 pm 
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I too have loaded Green Dot for 20 and 28 for years.
I tried 20/28. It works great.
Green Dot does too and is cheaper.
More bang for your buck.


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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:24 pm 
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I have a bunch of STS hulls and WAA28 wads. The only load I could find for that combo was Green Dot. Have been shooting it for years without issues.

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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:20 pm 
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Thanks for the good reports on Green Dot. 'Slo-burning' and 'high pressures' talk has me overthinking it perhaps. Loading AAs hulls, W209 and CB wads with Herco gives me 10,900 and with Universal gives me 12,200. Green Dot is in the middle at 11,900.
I'll keep my eyes open for a one # bottle and see for myself. I am curious.
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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:23 pm 
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I have been using Green Dot with a wad from ballistic products designed for a 5/8 load and using reclaimed shot and it has not been a handicap on the skeet field. I found a workup online that did the leg work and and stole the powder charge. The regular claybuster and winchester wads have a little rattle to them but broke birds just fine, but the BP wds give me a full case. I won't be trying anything different in the near future.


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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:59 pm 
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My favorite 28 Gauge clay target load is 5/8 oz. shot and 12 gr. Green dot. In either STS or AA & AAHS Burns very clean and breaks targets well. I particularly like it because it is bulkier and with lite loads you don’t need to add fillers for a good crimp.


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 Post subject: Re: Loading 28ga. with Green Dot
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:27 pm 
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I love Green Dot for 28ga. I also use 20/28 and Unique for 28ga loads. It depends on what is available.



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