ShotGunWorld Shotguns

It is currently Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:23 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Image



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:20 pm 
Presentation Grade
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:32 pm
Posts: 688
Been shooting crows lately. Wondering if anyone has any preferred loads for the little black buggars. Including shot charges and size.

My shooting ground is a moonscape. Range estimation is difficult with no landmarks and my shots have been pushing the outer limits. Currently using 1-3/8 oz of #4 backed by Longshot.

So what say you guys? Any recipe suggestions or go to shot sizes?



_________________
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. -Gustav Mahler


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:16 pm 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 7784
Location: Central ND
1 1/4 oz. of #6's. Crows aren't hard to kill.

You are doing yourself a disservice with #4's because you have a small target and not many pellets. Using #6's you will have over 130 more pellets in the 1 1/4 oz. load than you would have with #4's......and #6's typically pattern a bit better than #4's.

I have used: (both off the Hodgdon website)

Federal Gold Medal hull
Winchester 209
26.0 grains 800-X
Remington SP12 wad
1 1/4 oz. West Coast or Lawrence mag #6's
1275 FPS

Winchester CF hull
Winchester 209
25.0 grains 800-X
Remington SP12 wad
1 1/4 oz. West Coast or Lawrence mag #6's
1275 FPS

I have never tried the load in the Winchester HS hull only the CF hull

I have also 1 1/8 oz. loads of #6's in my 16's.

_________________
Mark

aka Mr. Tactful. Common sense no longer appears to be common.
NSCA#544066


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:13 pm 
Crown Grade

Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:31 pm
Posts: 2458
Trap loads with #6 shot.

_________________
Never sell a gun you shoot well, no matter how ugly or unpopular.
Copyright 2020 by SEB7515. All Rights Reserved.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:13 pm 
Field Grade

Joined: Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:56 pm
Posts: 25
I’ve never hunted crows before, but big fat city pigeons have always dropped real nicely for me using copper coated 5s and 6s in a 1&1/8oz load using Longshot at about 1500fps. You can find the load data on Hogdgon’s web page. There is a load listed there using a windjammer wad that can get you close to 1600fps if you want warp speed.

Be warned, for high volume shooting, these fast Longshot loads beat the hell out of your shoulder if you’re using an over/under or a pump gun. I only use them on Collard Eurasian Dove/Pigeon high volume hunts out of my auto-loader duck gun (Franchi Intensity).

https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/shotgun

Best,
rich


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:23 pm 
Diamond Grade

Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:07 pm
Posts: 1621
Location: Front Range, CO
I use plain old 1 1/8 #7.5 target loads to desired effect.

_________________
Oldfarmer wrote:
Idiots breed at a much higher rate than people with common sense and not all of them are able to find government work.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:13 pm 
Presentation Grade

Joined: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:04 pm
Posts: 877
Location: Eastern Ohio
1 1/4 #7 (not 7.5) good for 50 yards for crows

_________________
Age just makes one old. Only the wise benefit from experience.
The definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Albert Einstein
There is nothing common about good sense.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:19 pm 
Limited Edition

Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:36 pm
Posts: 310
Location: FL
My 1 ounce trap load.
7.5's or reclaimed shot.
Both blow the shot through the crow's back.
A pellet in the head prevents hoppers. Good luck.
Mossberg 500A with 26" C-Lect choke.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:28 pm 
Crown Grade

Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:55 am
Posts: 5594
Location: Hemingway, S.C. 29554
I have killed tons of crows with 7/8 oz. loads of #8 shot with my LC Smith 20 ga.. Their belly is exposed when they are coming in to a decoy set & that makes them very vulnerable. I find that it is much more fun to shoot them when they are supposed to be out of range with my 10 ga. guns. You would be amazed at how far 1.25 oz. of #5 or #6 will bust a crow out of a tight shooting duck/goose gun. I have a bunch of lead 4's left over from the lead shot duck & goose days that will get the ones wearing an oxygen mask. Confusion says, "He who fly upside down have quack-up!"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:59 pm 
Diamond Grade

Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:58 pm
Posts: 1431
Location: Oklahoma
I'd go with a handicap trap load (like seb7515) with #6 lead for an all-around crow load.

Here are a few of my pattern numbers to give you an idea of how this load patterned in my gun /chokes.

Pattern numbers from a 12-gauge Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus barrels and Briley flush chokes (patterns average of five, 30" post-shot scribed circle, yardage taped muzzle to target, and in-shell pellet count average of five).

12 GA 2 3/4" RELOAD (STS, R209, GREEN DOT, CB118-12)
1 1/8 oz #6 lead (267 pellets) 1225 fps
30 YARDS – SK / pattern 171 (64%)
30 YARDS – IC / pattern 211 (79%)
40 YARDS – LM / pattern 173 (65%)
40 YARDS – M / pattern 182 (68%)
40 YARDS – IM / pattern 195 (73%)
40 YARDS – LF / pattern 205 (77%)
40 YARDS – F / pattern 198 (74%)
50 YARDS – F / pattern 138 (52%)

Hope this helps, good luck!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:12 pm 
Diamond Grade

Joined: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:59 pm
Posts: 1302
Location: Soda Springs, Id.
nuther 7-1/2 guy here too.... Remington Nitro Golds will do them in just fine.
[unless I lose a brand new hull, then my day is shot]
if I gotta, I go to a 3-1/4 dram type load with green-dot and a bit over an ounce of 6's.
I use those same loads for pheasants.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:42 am 
Limited Edition
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:24 pm
Posts: 410
Location: South Central Pennsylvania
Years ago my son and I shot many crows around a roost over several seasons, and even with a caller and decoys bringing them in close, we found that 1 1/4 oz. of #6 brought them down instead of crippling them with lighter loads.

_________________
Citori 725 Skeet 12/28"
CZ Drake .410/28"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:19 am 
Crown Grade

Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:55 am
Posts: 5594
Location: Hemingway, S.C. 29554
MANY THINGS VARY. Hunting conditions, guns, patterns, target presentation, range & skill of the shooter. Crows are not hard to kill, as already observed. I will add they are not particularly hard to hit. Any load will kill them if you get within it's effective range. So, why do you hunt crows? Is it for sport or food or something else? Do you like challenging shots or just kill them the easiest way you can such as shooting them out of trees? What difference does it make if what you do satisfies you? You don't owe anybody an explanation. Sorry if this seems confrontational as that is not my objective. Just that like hunting any other game, an appropriate load can depend on what day it is along with a host of other things. Learning from others is always great but don't get hung up on being two politically correct! Hunting should be enjoyable!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:29 am 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 7784
Location: Central ND
geometric,

Not sure of the OP's motivation, but when I lived in CT and when there were many dairy farms, the dairy farmers loved it when you kept the crows out of their corn fields. If near a roost, crows will strip a cornfield in short order. Crows will also pick a freshly seeded field.......and they make for great targets. :mrgreen:

I used decoys and a mouth call sometimes for smaller flocks. Now that's just plain fun.

_________________
Mark

aka Mr. Tactful. Common sense no longer appears to be common.
NSCA#544066


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:09 pm 
Crown Grade

Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:55 am
Posts: 5594
Location: Hemingway, S.C. 29554
dogchaser,
Yep!, I gotta agree. I don't know if I ever had any crow shoots that hot but I have had some pretty good ones. I would no doubt kill more birds with a 12 or my 2 7/8" standard 10 but I like to use the bigger guns when the action slows down to migrating singles. That gives me an opportunity to get in some field practice with my duck & goose guns. There is always an element of pleasure in busting a sassy crow that thinks he is safely out of range! Actually, I shoot the standard 10 ga. 1.25 oz. load of #4 a lot. That is bigger shot than optimum but I have a lot of left over #4 shot & it works!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:18 pm 
Presentation Grade
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:32 pm
Posts: 688
Thanks guys. I have Eagle #6 and Lawrence copper plated #7-1/2 on hand.

I knocked out some 1-1/4 oz loads with the 6 and 7-1/2 over 30 grains of Herco in a Fiocchi hull/primer. Hoping to get my shot to birds ratio down to something less then the average dove shoot.

_________________
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. -Gustav Mahler


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:53 am 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:45 pm
Posts: 113
Location: Ozarks in Arkansas
12 ga load
Active hull
700 x powder
2s thru 6s shot xfull choke. Guy give me a bunch of lead shot free I just load it up.

410 3 inch
Remington or Winchester hull
Powder Winchester 296
6 shot with full or xfull choke.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:57 am 
Presentation Grade

Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:26 am
Posts: 625
+1 for Nitros


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:50 pm 
Crown Grade

Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2003 12:52 am
Posts: 5742
Whatever load I have on hand that contains #6 lead. I pick this size mostly as I have no other use for it but always have plenty around. If I end up with a box or two, I'll shoot #4 steel for the same reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:12 pm 
Presentation Grade
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:32 pm
Posts: 688
Thanks again for the suggestions. I'm running the Eagle #6. 1-1/4 oz. at around 1,250 fps. It gets it done!

Put the layout blind on the X. Finished the day with 48 crows, 4 starlings.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. -Gustav Mahler


Last edited by Hal4son on Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:46 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Favorite crow loads.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:40 pm 
Limited Edition

Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:22 pm
Posts: 382
Location: NE South Dakota
1 1/2 oz f shot.

Just kidding, trap loads with 6 or 5 shot.




Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Registered users: 1958jr, 9fingers, AlexS, Bing [Bot], BobK, castnblast2, clayflingythingy, desmobob, Dmc57, dolphin717, duurmeehr, ER NURSE, EricB, Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Gunning Bird, KRIEGHOFFK80, Nicoli7153, noweil, OBH Gun Club, Opossum, painter*, Rack-N-Roy, rubysue, strut64, texbiker, Tidefanatic, Virginian, westwind, Williamgrey


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group    - DMCA Notice