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 Post subject: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:48 pm 
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Hey all...It's been a while for me in these forum's. It's nice to be back...
I went back to reloading 20g for skeet shooting, and am using up the last of the Universal..A friend told me about Winchester 572. I've never heard of it, and cannot find anything on the boards here..

Any real world opinions on this powder? I can't get my hands on Universal, and apparently, there's 572 kicking around.
WinAA HS hulls
Claybuster 7/8 ounce
Win209 Primers
1200 fps is the goal...

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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:57 pm 
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If you go to Hodgdon.com reloading data, they have several loads using Win 572.


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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:24 am 
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Yea, I've found the data. It's very similar to Universal weight, and it's been mentioned that it meters similar to Longshot..

I guess my concern is, that I take these boards seriously. The fact that nobody on these boards talks about this powder, it that I've only recently heard about it caught me off balance...


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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:27 am 
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You may want to take a look at Hodgdon's International too. Works well in my 3/4 ounce loads.


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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:36 am 
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Thanks ..But it's about availability right now.
I used International for 1 1/8 loads in the past..

But the data is the data..If I can get my hands on an 8lber of 527, so be it...

If it works out, I'll become an apostle for the product..
Love the Universal, but when one door closes, another one opens...


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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:17 am 
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I have not used 572 - actually never heard of it before reading this thread. But I have used Universal/International Clays, Unique, Vectan A0, and Alliant 20/28. Since you live in Canada, availability may be your #1 concern. I know from using it for about 5 or 6 years now that the Vectan A0 is an excellent 20 GA target load powder. It is rumored that it will not be available this side of the Atlantic going forward. A have about 20 pounds left, so I'm good for a couple more years. :D

When the Vectan is gone, I will go back to using Alliant 20/28. It is one of the very best powders for 20 GA target loads that I have ever used. And it costs a little less than the 572 as listed on Brownell & Powder Valley websites.

Unfortunately, we are all at the mercy of 'Out-of-stock' pandemic right now and prices are inflated and availability is almost nil. Good luck with your quest and buy whatever you can find available at this time. But I would suggest that 20/28 would be a better fit for your application.

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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:27 am 
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I haven’t used any 572, but I’ve read positive comments about it. I’ve had excellent results with all of the Olin ball powders that I’ve used. I would expect that 572 would be no different

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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:07 am 
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Pijetro wrote:
Yea, I've found the data. It's very similar to Universal weight, and it's been mentioned that it meters similar to Longshot..

I guess my concern is, that I take these boards seriously. The fact that nobody on these boards talks about this powder, it that I've only recently heard about it caught me off balance...


I think it only came out a few years ago. Many already have their "pet loads".

FWIW, some other Win powders are very dense, so that could be good or bad for stack height.

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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:10 pm 
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I had a 1lb jug hanging around. I loaded up some 28 gauge yesterday. This is dense powder! For the WW AA HS hulls, I’m using the same bushing I use for loading 410. This results in lots of room in the HS hulls. I think you will be happy with 572.
For the 20ga loads, you will drop a good deal more grains but you should find it an easy fit, with really low pressures if you are using tubes. I tend to load Winchester Super Field for my 20 gauge loads. I gather it may not have been as popular as Alliant 20/20, or Universal; it sure made it a bit easier to find.


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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:23 pm 
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I've used 20 pounds or more of 572 since it was introduced a few years ago. It seems similar to Longshot in terms of density and metering ability. I've used it in both 20 and 28 gauge loads. It's a good choice to consider anytime, if it's the only thing you have now, use it.


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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:01 pm 
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Ok. So I wanted to follow up with my experience using the Win572 powder for my WinAA skeet loads.

It measures similar to Longshot, as suggested. The stack height and crimps are PERFECT.
Best of all, the felt recoil is short of a 28g load.
After dropping 3 birds out of 50, I ended up shooting 98/100 the next day, in very windy conditions..Head stayed on the stock the whole time..

So much so, that I'm starting to question about why I'm even shooting 12gauge at all. But that's a topic for another day..

All in all, it was lucky to have stumbled across this little known, but fantastic powder. And I'm an official spokesman for this powder's value. Thanks to all ..


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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:34 am 
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20/28 works so well I just have not seen a need to try anything else.


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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:59 am 
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Bill M. wrote:
20/28 works so well I just have not seen a need to try anything else.


But good luck at finding any on dealer shelves right now.


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 Post subject: Re: 20g Powder Question
PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:04 am 
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Pijetro sounds like you found a winning combination!




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