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 Post subject: Primers
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:43 pm 
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Picked up 1000 today 47.00 with tax. Winchester 209's in the new black, white and red box.




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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:33 pm 
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Now you need to go buy a lottery ticket, obviously the force is with you :!: :!: :!: :!:



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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:41 pm 
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Total rip-off. Works out to ~$250/sleeve. How long ago was it that Win was offering a 25% rebate off whatever price you paid? 2 summers ago? The next time that deal comes along, I'm buying more than I did the last time (and I'm still working through that buy).

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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:06 pm 
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It isn't a rip off when there are none to be had.

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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:36 pm 
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What's a fair price for a shooter-to-shooter sale?


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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:55 pm 
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J.Fred_Muggs wrote:
What's a fair price for a shooter-to-shooter sale?



Whatever the shooter is willing to pay.



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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:35 pm 
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In the early 80's deployed to the sandbox; when I left primes 2.50 thousand: went I got back primers were 5.00 thousand; 100% increase. It's a hobby if it gets to bad I have other hobbies.


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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:43 am 
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I never saw primers (209s) ever that low; a penny each, yes

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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:26 am 
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oneounceload wrote:
I never saw primers (209s) ever that low; a penny each, yes



They were not 209's they were small pistol. I didn't do shotgun shells back then. At the gun show 12.50 for 5 thousand; when I got back 25.00 5 thousand. In the early 90's we hit 50.00 5 thousand. This time: just my opinion when the dust clears I think 250.00 for 5 thousand will become the standard.


I assumed the price was the same when I got back, so I call the lady in Old Town Florida that came to the shows. I did my order so she would bring it didn't ask the total. Definitely got a surprise when she told me what I owed.


Part time job on paid about 3.50 hour back then. Always kept part time job couldn't feed the family or shot on what the military paid back then.


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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:20 am 
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Free enterprise is getting a fair price for something of value. You can legally ask anything you want for products & services but taking unfair advantage of the market is never pretty & that goes both directions. Particularly when it is instigated outside of normal market influences. What we have to do is learn how to make the market work for us. There is a big lack of data for alternate or substitute components. There is an alarming & increasing amount of data for powders that have been discontinued that hasn't been replaced by alternates or substitutes, particularly with hunting applications. New & improved as well as alternate data is not forthcoming & far too much data is developed solely to sell propitiatory products with little regard to the quality of the end results. We have the power of the purse & we need to learn how to use it!


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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:32 am 
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I have some small pistol primers that I paid $0.87 for 100. Those were the good old days :!: :!: :!:



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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:34 am 
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geometric wrote:
. We have the power of the purse & we need to learn how to use it!


You are talking like there are enough of us (reloaders) to influence the market. I dont think so.

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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:53 pm 
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WHO COMPRISES THE MARKET FOR RELOADING COMPONENTS? WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO SEEK ALTERNATIVE COMPONENTS & CREATE ALTERNATIVE DATA? SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY. GIVING UP BEFORE YOU TRY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A WINNING STRATEGY TO ME!


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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:32 pm 
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geometric wrote:
WHO COMPRISES THE MARKET FOR RELOADING COMPONENTS?!


Less then 5% of the shooting public.

So you might as well take a chill pill and unlock the caps button because we wont see components (primers and powder) back on the shelves until the ammo shelves are well stocked. Not one of the big component manufactures has us at the top of their "I care list"

geometric wrote:
SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY. !


Step right up and start a business that caters ONLY to the reloader.

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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:58 pm 
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I’ve been loading since 1965 and have never, ever seen any kind of primers at that price. Double that on rare occasions but nothing anywhere near that price. Cheapest I ever got was in 1965, RWS primers in a flat of 150 for $1.25.
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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:44 pm 
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Burnt Powder wrote:
Dannyd

I’ve been loading since 1965 and have never, ever seen any kind of primers at that price. Double that on rare occasions but nothing anywhere near that price. Cheapest I ever got was in 1965, RWS primers in a flat of 150 for $1.25.
You lived a charmed life!

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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:10 pm 
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This is probably a dumb question, but has anyone called the Olin factory to see what the plan is? I just happened to notice a phone number on a box of shells I was filling with reloads.


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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:54 pm 
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In the late 70's when I was shooting, PPC Federal SP primers were being purchased by a friend who was a commercial reloader at $5/thousand. I piggybacked on his orders from a local distributer for my shooting. At the time I was shooting 18-20K pistol rds per year.


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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:48 pm 
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Woody_1 wrote:
This is probably a dumb question, but has anyone called the Olin factory to see what the plan is? I just happened to notice a phone number on a box of shells I was filling with reloads.



You have the phone number call them and report back. Good Luck.

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 Post subject: Re: Primers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:25 pm 
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Jason Vanderbrink, President of Federal, CCI, Speer and Remington talked about primers here: https://youtu.be/E5zNNk130V0?t=183

Imagine it is similar with Olin...




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