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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:59 pm 
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Would you swap Nobel primers for Winchester and Cheddits?




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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:00 pm 
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I did for my skeet loads (3/4 oz, Extra-Lite), works great. Those loads are so low pressure there was no concern with regard to that.


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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:54 pm 
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I have. They are larger in diameter so you can't go back to WIN/Ched in those hulls.

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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:48 am 
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I've been using them exclusively in both my target and hunting loads with no issues.


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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
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I have been using them for Trap, Skeet, and Sporting Clays with no issues. I have reloaded 10,000+ without a single misfire.


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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
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I use them in the warm months, when the temps get down below 15-20 degrees, they don't work so well. Probably good 8-9 months out of the year.



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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:10 am 
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^^^^^^ I had the same results when I lived where it got that cold.

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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
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Several years ago the cold weather issue was pretty common with various primers, some powders and combinations with some wads..... Shooting in winters here require at least a few days of shooting in below zero weather.... only issue I ever experienced was when I had used the wrong wads in some Top Gun hulls.
Never have seen or bought the Nobel primers but when the world changes again I want to get some just to see what happens here.... we do get very cold but humidity is always low so perhaps that is a factor also... at any rate we definitely have enough warm months to make the Nobel useable.... Larry


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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
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If it isn't a good load at 30 degrees F, it probably isn't a good load at 80 degrees F. Just because it goes bang........

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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
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dogchaser37 wrote:
If it isn't a good load at 30 degrees F, it probably isn't a good load at 80 degrees F. Just because it goes bang........



They pattern and work fine in warm weather, they crono close to the published velocity, I have never done a detailed long string of shots, but they shoot fine, and I shoot my usual average with them. They work just fine except when it gets kinda cold, and I don't shoot when the temps are below 30 degrees, except at the indoor handgun range :D



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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:44 am 
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This discussion of shooting when its cold brought back this pleasant memory. When I bought my first real Skeet gun (I bought it from Robert Paxton), he and I were at Dallas Gun Club and I was trying it out before actually buying it. After we were done shooting, we retired to the Clubhouse and he and his wife and I were talking about Skeet shooting in Utah. And at that time, we had a registered shoot of some kind in all 12 months of the year. When I told them that, they looked at one another and laughed. When I asked why, they both agreed that if you can't shoot wearing shorts, short-sleeved shirts, and sandals, it's time to put the guns up until you can.

My common sense has kicked in since that discussion in 1986 and I no longer shoot clay targets of any kind if the temperature isn't 40*F or warmer. :D I also will not duck hunt anymore if the temperature is below 0*F.

I have shot registered targets at -20*F (Chill index at somewhere between -30 and -40). Shot one round then went to the Clubhouse for 30 minutes to thaw out for the 100 target event. It took almost 4 hours to 'Git R Done.' I've also duck hunted at -20*F, but only did it once and had to quit after 20 minutes.

Yep, cold weather shooting doesn't work for me any more. :lol: :D {hs#

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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
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I have shot a lot of Nobel Sport primers. My experience, the 688 is the one
I prefer, never a problem, hot or cold weather, although I have not been in
the really cold stuff.

I shot about 15,000 of the 686. I never had a failure one time, but the
primer seemed to be "cold". It took more powder to get the velocity than
what the loading tables indicated. Also, I had wide velocity swings on
low pressure loads in cold conditions.

From my experience, I suspect you have to add a little powder in the
cold months, to get the pressures and velocities you want. This is
probably true of any primer, not just Noble Sport.

If I have a choice I take the NS 688, but I have not shot it in really
cold conditions. I suspect an extra half grain of powder will not
hurt in December. Actually it probably won't hurt in August either
but it will give more velocity than what you expect.


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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:35 pm 
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wrfish wrote:
Would you swap Nobel primers for Winchester and Cheddits?

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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
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 Post subject: Re: Nobel primers
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I have loaded them for a long time, both 686 and 688. I prefer the 688 as it seems a little "hotter". This is my go to primer for loading Rio target hulls of which I have a large supply.
These are large enough to fit well in the Rio hull, as the Cheddite and Fiocchi primers will sometimes fall out.

My favorite load:
Rio 12 ga target hull, low brass
21 gr Titewad
NS 688 primer
Claybuster CB 2100 or 6100 wad
1 oz 7-1/2 magnum shot.



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