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 Post subject: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:23 pm 
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I have been on the wait list for a new reloader for about 4 months and was curious if anyone has taken delivery of a new 800 plus recently.




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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:57 am 
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No but I order a toolhead in .410 for my 800+ on 12/26/20 and still waiting. They did call me a few days later and asked if I wanted my card charged now or when shipped.

There web page was saying a 3 month wait but was changed in January, I think, to a 5 month wait.


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:34 pm 
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I have an 800 Plus with about 350,000+ rounds on it when it started to get out of adjustment more than I could fix myself. So I sent it back to PW for them to rebuild it and get it going trouble free again. It have the hydro system on it, and a hull feeder.

It took them almost 3 months to get it back, but for 350 bucks plus shipping it came back just like it was brand new. They replaced all kinds of parts and bushings. They even replaced the crimp starter with a newer better version. Even the hydro system and hull feeder (they didn't need to go back) are functioning perfectly now. It loads 300 shells in about 20 minutes like it did when I first bought it. I called them every couple weeks to see where I was inline and they were very accommodating in checking for me every time called.

When I sent it in they told me my machine was 16th in line to be rebuilt. It took from middle January to beginning April to get it back. But was worth the wait.

Now getting lead and powder are the problem.


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:09 pm 
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I saw the wait time could be 7-month's,on T.S.,com.How many people would be willing to do that wait
time,I think,very few?Even Dillon reloading,has a wait time of maybe 2-month's out.It even looked like,the show room,was locked up,there were no lights on and it appeared to be dark?I do know that they stopped Saturday,walk in service.


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:00 pm 
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Question for you guys: a friend passed away and left his wife four PW 800 B machines. She wants to sell them but they seem to attract little interest. What’s wrong with them?

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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:54 pm 
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Nothing wrong with them, but they have been improved over the years. The 800b hasn't been made for almost 40 years.

Main drive shaft is 7/8" and uses a cast endcap for the operating handle. Break that cap and you have problems. New shafts are larger and operating lever mounts differently.

No die removal station.

No taper crimp. (Expensive upgrade)

Different wad seating station.

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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:12 pm 
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They sound like good boat anchors

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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:38 pm 
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Johnnydjr wrote:
No but I order a toolhead in .410 for my 800+ on 12/26/20 and still waiting. They did call me a few days later and asked if I wanted my card charged now or when shipped.

There web page was saying a 3 month wait but was changed in January, I think, to a 5 month wait.


I can't remember when I ordered it, but I don't think it was this year. I am in my early 60's though, early dementia?


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:56 pm 
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casonet wrote:
They sound like good boat anchors


Should be able to sell them for $250 - $300 ea. if they are functional.

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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:56 am 
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+ 1 on what John H,says,about price,also the 800B machines are made with aluminum,not that pressed stuff,that has had some cracking problems to a degree?


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:29 am 
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She has had no offers after a year. They will go on auction with the rest of the estate and bring what someone is willing to pay

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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:37 pm 
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casonet wrote:
She has had no offers after a year. They will go on auction with the rest of the estate and bring what someone is willing to pay

Based on the auctions I've watched recently, people are paying crazy money. I hope she does well.


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:29 am 
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y'all gotta remember P/W is basically run out of a guy's 'garage' with maybe 3 or 4 Employee's.

good thing is if you call them the person answering the phone actually has a clue about the machine your talking to them about.


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:33 pm 
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The "out of a garage" idea might be right.

When I once called to get them to send me a primer tray when mine broke, the lady on the phone told me it would be a week or so because Mary hadn't made any up in a while and she was doing something else at the time.


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:23 pm 
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Smaller and older shop type complex since they have been around since the days of the 600 machines, and far from the concept of out someone's homes garage".

The office is the front buildings, while the shop is the blue building behind it.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/7634+ ... 16.8901889

Note, if you look at Spolar, pretty much the same amount of working area, but just a newer building in a business complex since it started up decades after PW.
Mec on the other hand, pretty large complex, but they produce more than just reloading machines out of that complex.


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:30 pm 
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Thanks everyone for the responses to my inquire. I have to tell you , I am sure some of you are aware I posted the same question over at Trapshooters.com, after 1000 views and 20+ plus responses no one has yet to address my question.
I think I can extrapolate from that, that no one has taken delivery of an 800+ from P/W this year.
shayne


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:41 am 
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I just put in an order for the 375 yesterday.
Kim said it was going to be awhile and from what your saying, I guess I should expect it around Christmas.


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:06 pm 
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Shaynec- They took almost 4 months to do a repair and rebuild job for me. I would expect they would give priority to selling a new machine over fixing and old one.

Why don't you call and see where you are in the delivery schedule? When I called to ask about my repair delivery time they were very accommodating about giving me an estimate of when I could expect delivery.


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:07 pm 
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I’ve been waiting for around 3 months for a tool set.


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 Post subject: Re: P/W 800 plus
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:41 pm 
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How long can a business sustain,this operation model,without going belly up?




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