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 Post subject: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:06 pm 
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After retina detachments in both eyes I am cleared to shoot again. It took two years, but my vision is almost as good as before the detachments. I am cleared for shooting. Have been shooting my 260 REM at 1000 yard matches without any issues.
I am a little gun shy to start shooting my 12 ga again. Just not worth the risk. So I am considering a 28 ga. I know the ammo is expensive and I would need to reload.
I will be using it for clays. Some trap and skeet. Sporting clays if I can find it.

Looking for any recommendations on a soft recoiling 28 ga. I am 6'1" so I would think it will be harder to get a 28 ga to fit.

For those with a 28 ga, is a O/U being heavier than an SA similar in recoil?

I would like an O/U, but is a semi auto a better choice?

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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:50 pm 
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Hi,

A buddy of mine had shoulder surgery years ago. He bought a 28ga 1100 and still shoots that thing today. So if you want the mildest recoil, look at a heavier S/A 28ga like the 1100. But that evil thing will toss empties 3 counties over.

The CZ O/U's seem to be heavy for gauge as a rule, and should be pretty mild with standard 3/4oz target loads. And since he's now recovered from his surgery, my buddy shoots a Beretta SP1 with 30" tubes. I think it weights around 6 1/2lbs. It's a real kitten cat for recoil. And you can easily control the empties for reloading. I use a 5 3/4lbs CZ Ringneck and find the standard AAHS 3/4oz loads pretty easy on the shoulder as well.

And if you are going to reload, 11/16oz or even 1/2oz loads are there for the rolling up at home. So you could choose nearly any gun you wish.

Edit to add: I'm 6' 4" have no issue with fit of any 28ga I've shot. Well, besides the issues with being left-handed.

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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:53 pm 
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I never met a 28 ga I didn't like. It is the perfect balance in performance and weight. I like my F3 best, a full size gun with multiple barrel sets. The other I fine super is the Browning 725. I have only shot the field not a Sporting. I have also shot the Beretta A400. The giggle factor is off the charts for that one.

Don't sweat the ammo, it will be worth it as we all find a way.

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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:40 pm 
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Increasing the weight of the shotgun is the easiest way to decrease felt recoil. You may want to consider a 12 gauge over/under with full length 28 gauge tubes. Since you will be reloading you can gain additional small reductions in recoil by loading 11/16 ounce at 1225 or so FPS. -Ed


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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:06 pm 
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S/A will have less felt recoil,

I love my 28's but I load them down

if you are reloading,load 12 ga with 7/8 oz of shot at 1150 fps

that is why I reload, I get recoil "punchy", shooting factory loads


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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:52 pm 
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The softest shooting 28 would be the 1100; but then finding those expensive empties can be tricky. Personally, I would get a 20 and reload 3/4oz (28 gauge level) and go have some fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:21 pm 
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7lb 28ga o/u of your choice. I reload 3/4oz @ 1130fps and it is a pussycat yet busts clays well.

for trap....well gonna be tough with a 28.


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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:32 pm 
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I’ve had an 1100 in 28ga and a couple 12ga O/Us that I’ve used Briley subgauge tubes in (both Sidekick 2.0 and full length). The added weight of a heavier receiver 12ga using 28ga tubes with 3/4oz loads makes recoil negligible. I’d put it on par with the 1100 in 28ga, maybe even less. The 1100 in 28ga has a smaller, lighter receiver than an 1100 in 12ga. Both are very light recoiling.


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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:20 am 
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Get a gun that feels comfortable for you. You may like light guns, but some prefer heavier for shooting. Remember, a heavier gun for "shoot a lot, carry a little", or a lighter gun for "carry a lot, shoot a little". Also, if you plan on reloading to save money (and for a 28 ga. you DO save $$!), think about whether an O/U or SXS is better than chasing hulls (and losing some) with a pump or auto is more your style.

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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:06 am 
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Thank you for all the great information. If I had a 12 ga o/u the 28 ga tubes would be a great, but I do not have one.
My 12 ga is a Remington V3, so 7/8 oz reloads is not really an option as the minimum is 1 oz. plus I really do not want to take the risk with a 12 ga.
So I will look for a heavy o/u. The local GS has a tristar o/u in 28 ga. They also have a Beretta A400 in 28 ga. and a Benelli Sport II in 20 ga. The Benelli with a raised rib fit me the best.

I have considered 20 ga. o/u using 3/4 oz reloads. From reading about the 28 ga it seemed like the 28 ga had a more consistent pattern when compared to a light loaded 20 ga or 12 ga. Also everyone I read about seems to really enjoy the 28 ga.

And yes, trap will be a challenge with a 28 ga, but I ok with that. Just happy I am able to be out shooting.

David


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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:08 am 
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DavidNY wrote:
Looking for any recommendations on a soft recoiling 28 ga. I am 6'1" so I would think it will be harder to get a 28 ga to fit.

For those with a 28 ga, is a O/U being heavier than an SA similar in recoil?

I would like an O/U, but is a semi auto a better choice?

David


I bought a Beretta SPI in 28ga. this spring and it fits me (6'2" 250lbs) well after adding a thicker recoil pad to increase the LOP a bit. I think the recoil is very light and I love the gun.

I am interested in eventually picking up a semiautomatic in 28ga and I can just imagine how light the recoil would feel.

I'm not at all recoil sensitive but in owning both O/U and semi-autos of the same gauges, I'd say the semi-autos' spread-out recoil impulse always seems to feel lighter and less violent to me. But if you're going to reload, an O/U sure makes it more convenient to keep track of your empties!

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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:15 pm 
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DavidNY,

I know you're thinking 28, but here's an alternative thought:

Get a Remington 1100 Sporting in 20 gauge. They're polished blue, have beautiful wood, and a nice recoil pad.

I've got both a Sporting in 20 and 28 gauge and honestly, I can't tell the difference in recoil. The 20 gives you both more and cheaper options in terms of ammunition.


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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:33 pm 
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Beretta 686 12ga. and have a 30" 28ga barrel fitted to the 12ga. receiver and fore end . Will weigh appox. 8lb. . Recoil will be close to nothing and you will not have to chase hulls .


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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:52 pm 
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These are all great ideas. I really appreciate all the help.

My budget is $2,000 or less. Many of these seem to fit my budget.

Would like an o/u. The Beretta SP1 seems like a good fit. Will try to find one in my area.

A used Browning 725 28 ga in 30" or 32" looks like it might work. From what I have read they are a littler over 7 lbs.

The 20 ga is tempting as I would not need to reload and there are many more choices.

Yet for some reason I am drawn to the 28 ga, odd since I have not had a chance to try one.

David


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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:34 pm 
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From your last post, you really want a 28 gauge. Buy one now, or you'll buy one later. The suggestion to have 28 gauge barrels fitted to a 12 gauge Beretta SP-1 is a good, but expensive one, since you don't already have the 12 gauge shotgun. Ditto, for my suggestion for a set of 28 gauge full-length tubes fitted to a 12 gauge. So, here's my new suggestion: buy a nice, used Beretta or Browning 12 gauge O/U and shoot it with 1150 - 1200 FPS. 3/4 ounce loads. It will not kick you hard, and you can later add the 28 gauge barrels or tubes. -Ed


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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:43 pm 
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I recommend a baby frame SP1 (true 28ga size frame) or a Browning in 28ga (Citori will be on a 20ga frame but still fun to shoot.

I find a large difference in recoil between standard 20 and 28ga loads, all else being equal.


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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:48 pm 
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If you have an itch to own a 28ga. gun, go for it! I wanted one for many years. I always yearned for one of those little Franchi 48 AL 28ga. semi-autos. I put it off and put it off until it left my mind. Then, when I thought of it again and decided to buy one, they had already been discontinued for a few years.

The reason I did think of having one again is that I kept reading about the "magic" of the 28, and kept noticing the way 28 gauge shotgun owners spoke of the gauge with reverence.

A beautiful, svelte Beretta Silver Pigeon is my first 28ga. gun, and I can now agree that there is some magic in that little shotshell. Notice that I said the Beretta is my "first" 28... I'm thinking there will be more!

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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:42 pm 
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I have the A400 Xplor in 28 ga. I also have the Beretta 686 O/U in 28 ga. I love them both. I don't see much real difference in recoil for me. I shoot my AA reloads in my O/U and the throw away ammo in my semi-auto. Variety is the spice of life! I recommend either model. The great thing having those two is that the ergonomics are the same and give you the same sight picture whichever you choose to shoot. Good Luck! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:43 am 
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It is ALSO possible to buy an O/U with 2 sets of barrels, a 20 ga. and a 28 ga. These are available, and offer a decent option. Check all the gun makers to see who produces or carries them, as well as Joel Etchen and Cole's of Maine.

(They are also available on a "baby frame" which is smaller receiver and lighter as a 28 ga. and .410 combo.)

They are interesting possibilities, and would have saved me money in the long run.

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 Post subject: Re: Need some 28 gauge gun selection advice
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:04 pm 
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Thank you all again for the help.

Have narrowed the choices down to A400, 686 SP1 or 725.

Have not been able to find a Browning 725 in my area yet.

One last question... Is the Citori CXS 20/28 Gauge Combo to consider?

David




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