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 Post subject: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:35 pm 
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I have an older Stevens 311 20g SXS that just doesn't get any real loving or use. I was thinking of getting a 28g just for something new to try but then thought about tubes. Since the 20g barrels are fixed M/F how would the chokes work with tubes and would it be a worthwhile endeavor? I don't really hunt so this would be for occasional clays fun shoots.



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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:38 pm 
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I would not see the benefit there. if you reload there are 3/4oz 20ga wads to be had. Then consider commercial 28ga ammo runs almost twice the cost of 20ga.


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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:43 pm 
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Brett41,

Because you own the 311 I would not invest in sleeving the gun for 28 gauge. I would just purchase a good 28 gauge gun. The new 555 28 gauge guns are nice and do the job quite well, and they are not expensive. The older 311 20 gauge is a nice little box lock SXS double gun, however not worth the money to sleeve it. If you had a more expensive 20 gauge, like an L.C. Smith or a Fox that would be a different situation.

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:27 am 
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Take up reloading. Reload some 20 gauge hulls with 3/4 oz. of shot - Claybuster makes the proper wads for it, and 14 gr. of Green Dot works fine. And your 20 gauge just turns into essentially a 28 gauge gun. (Gun Club or similar shells work fine.)

Plus, it's a lot less expensive than buying 28 gauge shells, as well!

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:36 pm 
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Thanks all. I do reload 20 and have just started loading some 3/4oz Green dot loads. Haven't shot them yet but hope to soon. Maybe I'll just use the 'ol 311 as is with the reduced loads.

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:08 am 
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Reloading does not satisfy the NEED TO BUY another gun. Of course it does allow you to shot one gun with the same size, weight, balance and swing, as a 20 or equivalent 28. Instead of tubes for the 20, I agree with the other poster, buy a 28 gauge SxS on a 28 gauge frame. Sharptail, SKB or maybe a used Ringneck, the Ringneck used probably could be had for the cost of one set of tubes.

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:08 pm 
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Gentlemen,

IMO purchase a good high quality double gun that can be passed down thru many generations. Save your money and purchase a quality double gun that you like best, and make sure it fits you. Never purchase a poor quality gun of any kind. Rather than sleeving a gun I would rather purchase a Combo gun, 28/20 are real nice and you get a lot of use out of them, both shooting clays and hunting.

I do have one gun that was sleeved, a #2 L.C. Smith 20 gauge with Damascus Barrels, sleeved for 28 by Briley long ago. A seriously beautiful gun for sure, still I wish it had been left in it's original state as a 20 gauge.

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:32 am 
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Does anyone make "tubes" for a 20 to 28 conversion??? Curious.

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:46 am 
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sera wrote:
Does anyone make "tubes" for a 20 to 28 conversion??? Curious.


Briley will make fitted tubes for 20 to both 28 & .410.

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:14 pm 
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I have 28 & 410 Briley tubes for my K20. Love them.


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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:11 pm 
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Lucky--are yours the full length ? Does it mess up the balance ?

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:47 pm 
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Had 32" with fitted, too barrel heavy for me. 13oz for set extra.
Went with my 30s, 11oz extra & feel very good even with extra wt. Love the handling & still feel lively.


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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:50 pm 
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To clarify had 2 barrel sets 32 & 30.


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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:35 pm 
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sera,

My #2 L.C. Smith is a 20 gauge fully sleeved by Briley for 28 gauge, they did a fantastic job and the gun works perfectly. The job must not have been inexpensive however, even long ago when it was done.

If I was purchasing a modern gun, I would simply purchase a combo gun, with both 20 and 28 gauge barrels, rather than sleeve a 20 with 28 gauge sleeves.

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:07 am 
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Dave--Thanks for the info. I had not heard of removable 28g tubes for a 20g. I would be a little concerned about how little aluminum was there but I would not shoot hot loads. This would be for SC's small gauge competitions.

I have an O/U 20g frame w/ 20 and 28 bbls that are matched weight and use only one fore-end.

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2020 4:17 pm 
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sera,

To clear things up, my L.C. Smith 20 was sleeved by Briley with full length inserts and they are not removable. I am looking for a set of steel 20 gauge Smith Barrels that can be reworked to fit my #2 20 gauge breech work. So far no luck.

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#2 L.C. Smith 20 gauge with Briley 28 gauge full inserts. Serious Grouse & Woodcock gun.

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2020 1:58 pm 
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Dave--thx. I knew what you meant. My Perazzi MX 20 came w/ a set of matched weight 28g bbls. Sweet gun. It's been to Argentina for doves and ducks a few times.

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:06 pm 
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sera,

Now that sounds like a real sweet gun, have fun with her!

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 Post subject: Re: 28g tubes for SXS 20g
PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:09 am 
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IMHO only --- 95% of the actual difference between 20ga and 28 ga performance is between one's ears. I'd leave it as a 20 and enjoy shooting it as a 20.

That said, you can buy chamber reducers very inexpensively and they work great -- in fact you likely won't notice a hoot of difference between shooting with them and a comparable quality 20ga load.

I agree with the above that if you reload, loading 3/4oz 20ga is way more effective than chamber reducers or re-sleeving.

If you don't reload, the big benefit of the 20 is ammo cost -- generally way cheaper than any 28ga load you'll find.

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