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 Post subject: Need reload data for 28ga Fiocchi hulls & Unique powder
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:31 pm 
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Title says it all. Thanks!



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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a reload using Fiocchi hulls and Unique powd
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:55 am 
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You have to give a GAUGE for a load. It usually helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for a reload using Fiocchi hulls and Unique powd
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:05 am 
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BobK wrote:
You have to give a GAUGE for a load. It usually helps.


28ga


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 Post subject: Re: Need reload data for 28ga Fiocchi hulls & Unique powder
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:21 am 
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Both ALLIANT and HODGDON websites have loading data for their brands of powders in all gauges - These are the best sources for load data, as they give safe loads.

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 Post subject: Re: Need reload data for 28ga Fiocchi hulls & Unique powder
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:12 am 
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Pick up a copy of Ballistic Products' small bore loading manual. It has a lot of 28ga. loads; particularly Euro hull loads that are less common in the powder manufacturer's data.

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 Post subject: Re: Need reload data for 28ga Fiocchi hulls & Unique powder
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:05 pm 
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BobK wrote:
Both ALLIANT and HODGDON websites have loading data for their brands of powders in all gauges - These are the best sources for load data, as they give safe loads.


Alliant does not have any information for the hull powder combination I inquired. Had they, I would not have posted.

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 Post subject: Re: Need reload data for 28ga Fiocchi hulls & Unique powder
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:07 pm 
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desmobob wrote:
Pick up a copy of Ballistic Products' small bore loading manual. It has a lot of 28ga. loads; particularly Euro hull loads that are less common in the powder manufacturer's data.


I am aware, but I was hoping someone could help me out in the interim. I just need a load, any load with Unique and Euro hulls at a normal 1200fps.

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 Post subject: Re: Need reload data for 28ga Fiocchi hulls & Unique powder
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:26 pm 
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My BP small bore manual is down in the shop, but here are the two Fiocchi hull loads from the Lyman book I have next to me...

28ga. 3/4 oz. Fiocchi Hull
11.5gr. Unique powder
Fed 209A primer
Rem. PT28 wad
1140 fps 8,900 psi

13 gr. Unique powder
Fed 209A primer
Rem PT28 wad
1228 fps 10,400 psi

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 Post subject: Re: Need reload data for 28ga Fiocchi hulls & Unique powder
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:36 pm 
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Pick up the phone and call Alliant. Tell them what you want to load and that you want to use Unique. They will give you advise for a recipe. I had the dilemma with 28 ga Cheddite hulls. They gave me an answer

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 Post subject: Re: Need reload data for 28ga Fiocchi hulls & Unique powder
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:27 pm 
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desmobob wrote:
My BP small bore manual is down in the shop, but here are the two Fiocchi hull loads from the Lyman book I have next to me...

28ga. 3/4 oz. Fiocchi Hull
11.5gr. Unique powder
Fed 209A primer
Rem. PT28 wad
1140 fps 8,900 psi

13 gr. Unique powder
Fed 209A primer
Rem PT28 wad
1228 fps 10,400 psi

Do you know if there are any PT28 clones out there?


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 Post subject: Re: Need reload data for 28ga Fiocchi hulls & Unique powder
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:45 pm 
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Stuck-N-Kali wrote:
Do you know if there are any PT28 clones out there?


None that I've seen...

When I start reloading for a new gauge, I buy a large quantity of the Claybuster clone wads for my favorite clay target loads, then get a variety of the proprietary wads so I'll have a good selection for hunting loads I might want to try. Heck... a bag of wads costs about the same as one box of ammo.

In 28 gauge, I have a bunch of Claybuster's WAA28HS clone wads, plus a bag of Remington PT28S, Federal 28S1, and Ballistic Products SG28S and HV28. That gives me lots of opportunities to make up good hunting or sporting loads with various hulls.

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 Post subject: Re: Need reload data for 28ga Fiocchi hulls & Unique powder
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:34 am 
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I came up with a load for the Rio 28 ga hull and had it tested at Precision Reloading. 14.0 gr Alliant Unique, CB5034-28HS B wad, Fiocchi 616 primer, 3/4 oz shot tested came out at 1230 fps, Standard Deviation of 4, extreme variation of 11 fps. Average pressure was 11850 psi with a Standard Deviation of 239 psi and an extreme variation of 600 psi.



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