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 Post subject: Different presentations and what they are called?
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:09 am 
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Hey guys,

I was wondering what the different type of presentations are called. I have heard teal etc and i think i know what that one is. does anyone have the time to list what they look like and what there sc name is. Hope this is not too confusing i just want to know more of the terminology so i can talk and ask questions




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 Post subject: re: Different presentations and what they are called?
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:17 am 
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Well, I'll toss a couple out.

Rabbit - target that runs along the ground. Will normally take some odd hops from time to time as it speeds along it's way. The target itself is flat as opposed to domed and has a thicker rim to withstand the contact with the ground.

Springing Teal - target that is generally thrown straight up, or nearly so. Usually to fairly good heights.

Crosser - just what the name says. A Target that is crossing from one side to the other.

Chondele <sp> - otherwise known as the @$%@#$% target. Target is thrown with a rainbow trajectory forcing the shooter to work his/her lead in two directions, in front and below the target to hit. Looks easy but for some shooters it's one of the toughest shots.

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 Post subject: re: Different presentations and what they are called?
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:28 am 
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High pheasant....high incomers usually off a tower.

Driven partridge...simultaneous pair low and fast overhead.

Grouse....as above but offset from two traps.

Decoyed woodpigeon .... long range dropper.

Not often seen (in fact probably never in US!) the bolting rat....to call for the "bird" you kick a galvanised bucket hard enough to be heard by the trapper who is a few yards behind you with a rabbit trap. Shoot the outgoing mini with a single barrel .410. You heard it here first.

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 Post subject: re: Different presentations and what they are called?
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:46 am 
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Using the simplest of terms, a fast, usually low going away target is called a "trap" target, just as some crossers are called "skeet" targets.

Incomers are what it implies, a Chondelle (Chandelle) is a target thrown that stays in continuous transition, a looper, thrown in a continuous arc, either Left or Right-high or low.

Ground rabbits, and air rabbits----an air rabbit can be just a low chondelle or cranked up so hard with speed it may appear as a full face diving target, sometimes thrown off a low platform, but a rabbit target so it does not follow flight characteristics of a domed target.

A battue is a very flat disc (with minimal air cushion in it) thrown, while under alot of power it stays true to its path but as it slows or encounters alot of wind, it will nearly stop, curl and dive to the ground. One may see a USDB target listed, this is an upside down battue, simply turned over bat, it can do some strange things.

A quartering in or away target is just what it says, but to different degrees.

An overhead-----is usually a high target coming from behind, passing over and going away.

Teals can be low or high, close or far, the devious setter won't throw a vertical teal though it will appear as one, and will be distant. Or a pair of teal that can cross twice.

A rocket is usually refering to the target itself, a harder more solid, heavier target, but if you see one it is most certainly cranked up with speed, usually with distance------maybe over a treeline at 45 yards, and it doesn't lose energy like a normal target.

A "midi" is 90mm, a mini (oreo) is 60mm, where a standard is 108mm.

Targets with "curl", simply go out and twist in flight, it also is usually in transition all the time. Now get a curling/diving driven target down a 3-7% grade, it can be a booger.

I probably left something out but that will get you started.

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 Post subject: re: Different presentations and what they are called?
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:33 pm 
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We have a few "pet" names for certain birds like floppers and sliders....floppers having no spring and sliders curling away right at the sweet spot.

Then there are names that can not be repeated in polite company.


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 Post subject: re: Different presentations and what they are called?
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:45 pm 
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All targets can be named, its just the names of some target setters that cant be spoken in polite company :lol:


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 Post subject: re: Different presentations and what they are called?
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:15 pm 
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While these have all been given attractive catchy names there are only so many actual presentations.
Quartering either toward you or going away on
right or left
Crossing from right or left
Outgoing or incoming perpendicular to the plane
of the shooting station
Other aspects of the above are rising or falling
and weather the flight path is curling or not.
Thats pretty much it no matter what other names are applied.


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 Post subject: re: Different presentations and what they are called?
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:42 pm 
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Aside from all of the different presentations mentioned so far, many of them are often preceded by certain adjectives, which aren't fit to repeat here, in a family atmosphere. 8)

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 Post subject: re: Different presentations and what they are called?
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:07 pm 
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One interesting variation on the rabbit targets was a target series I saw thrown in Missouri a few years ago.
Report pair of rabbits. One from the right, one from the left. Both thrown at high speed accross the surface of a pond (stock tank to us Texans). The first rabbit would skip accross the surface fairly consistently and breaks were common on the first rabbit thrown. But after that, things got really interesting. The second rabbit would now have a series of waves left from the shot hitting the surface as well as the pieces of the first rabbit making the waves. The second rabbit would jump all over the place and even make a dive after only a few bounces.
The shooters were having a ball watching each other shoot. At the end of the match, all you heard were guys bragging or trying not to tell how they did on the 'Jesus' Rabbits.

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 Post subject: re: Different presentations and what they are called?
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:48 pm 
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The catchy names make things a little more fun and more descriptive than "a quartering outgoer". When there's a pair of a rabbit and a bird, I've heard it called a fur and feathers. One of my favorites was a "'possum"...a rabbit clay rolling down a metal gutter set at about a 45% angle...then rolling out onto a log for only about 10' before falling off. You couldn't see it 'till it rolled out on the log and tho it wasn't going fast, it was a pretty challenging target. Something about hearing it rolling down that gutter.


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 Post subject: re: Different presentations and what they are called?
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:07 am 
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This would seem to be a good FAQ topic. Sera russell provides an explanation for a number of targets here.




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