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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:03 pm 
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its the roll of the dice. sometimes you win, sometimes you don't.
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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:38 am 
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bobski wrote:
its the roll of the dice. sometimes you win, sometimes you don't.
keep looking!
think the son can come again?


Waaaaay too early to tell with him. He doesn't even know what he is doing tomorrow half of the time! Lol! He did just start a new job and he does occasionally travel some so his status won't be known until virtually the last minute.


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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:51 pm 
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understood.
we plan on being there 23 sept. have ya swung by this month yet?

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:36 pm 
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bobski wrote:
understood.
we plan on being there 23 sept. have ya swung by this month yet?


Going tomorrow. I'll PM you an update when we get back.


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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:33 am 
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jim is out.
I called stan. hes still planning, but no ticket as of yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:12 pm 
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good news. I heard from Byron w in ks. he signed up. we have 5 now.

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:55 pm 
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lets talk covid.... whats everyone's take on it? last shoot we had 6 shooters show. we kept 6' distance no masks and no one got sick. it was april and mo just started lockdown the day after the meet.
we canceled in town club 60 and canceled the pot luck.
here it is 6 months later.
we dont foresee having more than 9 in oct. do we want to just keep 6' apart and wash hands when you hold the button and grab the door knobs?
and do you want to do the pot luck? we are trying to figure out how to do the serving utensils with everyone touching them.
do we have servers serve it only? i dont have a staff and sarah and i cant prepare dishes like in a cafeteria and serve the whole line. it would take forever.
i can set up no more than 2 chairs at each table and we'd have enough to seat everyone, or do we all go sit outside?

if everyone wore cheap plastic gloves, everyone could go thru the line touching the serving spoons etc..and toss them at the end of the line.
I can call up 1 table at a time with 2 people so the line isn't crowded.

lmk.
give me some feedback guys.

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:08 am 
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If the COVID19 rate hasn't went down significantly by October, I would say doing the pot luck and Club 60 would still be risky. It's easy for me to say that everyone fend for themselves since I will have my camping trailer there and can prepare my own food in the trailer but realize that not having food there could be more problematic for others. They could bring a sack lunch of some kind and store it in the fridge, even if that meant something like a Subway sandwich or something. Or bring whatever they want in a cooler (lunch meat, cheese, condiments, etc.)

As for the controller and door knobs, I think it would be a good idea to have a pump bottle of hand sanitizer at each field and on the counter in the clubhouse. That way you can sanitize immediately after you have touched either one. Come into the clubhouse, immediately use the sanitizer. Leaving the clubhouse, use sanitizer right before exiting. The person operating the controller would need to not be shooting that round so that only one person touches the controller each round. That person would use the hand sanitizer before they picked up the controller and after they put it down. Otherwise, if there was not a non shooter operating the controller, it would need to be passed back and forth between at least 2 people at every skeet station which isn't ideal. The non shooter operating the controller can be an actual shooter/participant but just not shoot on the squad they are pulling for. They can shoot on a different squad. The trap controller is less problematic since you are usually the only one operating that one. That's my $.02.


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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:48 am 
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ok....everyone bring a small bottle of hand sanitizer. lets make that part of the loadout for everyone coming.
I can pass on pot luck.
im sure all the others can too.

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:20 pm 
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Byron is locked in..............

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:29 am 
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the guys on the fence:

stan
colo bob
new guy from tn
joe
larry

if anyone has any more names, lmk!
on the other hand....with less people, odds of winning the trophy goes up. :>

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:33 pm 
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ok...colo bob is out.

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:39 am 
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expert16 is in. we have 6 now.

its all up to joe, larry, or stan to sign up to make it a good meet. wish more would come.

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:41 pm 
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hard to believe almost 10 years ago, I was holding monthly fun shoots on the 1st sunday of each month. boy times have changed.
heres a review of what we use to do!
anyone coming in oct want me to set one of these up for a money match on the side?

25.00 entry fee.
must have 5 shooters.
1st place prize only.
50/50 split with the range.


Jan: Mus-bnuts Open. 50 American Skeet. Any gun.
Feb: Frozen Chosen Open. 50 16yd Singles Trap. 12ga.
Mar: Chilly Willie Open. 50 Doc Adams.
Apr: Spring Fever Open. 50 Skeet (Pump, Lever, or SBS Only)
May: 1st Cut Open. 50 Trap 27yd Handicap Only. Any gun.
June: No Excuses Open. 50 Low Gun Doc Adams.
July: 2nd Cut Open. 50 Low Gun Old Rule Skeet. Guns With Buttplates Only. (Rusty, Worn Finish Brown Guns encouraged.)
Aug: No Sweat Open. 50 27yd Annie Oakley Trap. 2 Misses and Out.
Sept: 3rd Cut Open. 50 poor mans 5 stand.
Oct: Harvest Open. 50 Skeet, Doubles Only
Nov: The Guns Fault Open. 25/25 Same Gun Skeet and Trap. Fixed Choke.
Dec: Antifreeze Open. 50 Doc Adams. All bore, 2 shots allowed.

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:18 pm 
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What's the Doc Adams? Depending on what that is, the others I would be interested in are:

50 Skeet (Pump, Lever, or SBS Only)

25/25 Same Gun Skeet and Trap. Fixed Choke (assuming screw chokes allowed but just keep the same one (or two if a double) in for each game)

50 poor mans 5 stand (a definition of exactly what that consists of would be helpful)

Heck, I would even be for shooting some of these games as the main shoot vs the regularly scheduled itinerary if everyone were in agreement. If doing it as a side shoot for money, then just whichever one the majority agreed to.


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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:15 pm 
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doc adams is a name for skrap. names change depending in region.
id have to find my explanations buried on a hard drive somewhere.
let me look.
a lot of these games were tried over time at the shoot and hoots, but crowd size and time restraints made us drop them. it messed up the pot luck, awards, people left early to get home etc...we were getting to club 60 at 8pm and out by 11pm!
lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:26 pm 
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thanks to r.scott backing up every computer I owned onto this laptop....I found it.
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Clay Pigeon Farm
Monthly Fun Shoots. 50 Non Registered Birds.
1st Sunday of Each Month

 Jan: Mus-bnuts Open. 50 American Skeet. Any gun.
Its too cold this time of year to learn new things, so just go out and shoot 50 quick American skeet, and run back into the clubhouse, get some coffee, play cards, and get warm!

 Feb: Frozen Chosen Open. 50 16yd Singles Trap. Any gun.
Don’t waste time! See the bird and shoot it! Do it 50 times and get back in the clubhouse for some hot chocolate! Its basic ATA trap.

 Mar: Chilly Willie Open. 50 Doc Adams. Any gun.
Its rare for both skeet shooters and trap shooters to shoot a game where each must learn the others sport on the same field of play. Yet, playing Doc Adams, they do. Each expert combines their skills and talents and goes against the course.
Everyone shoots trap on the skeet stations. Secret? Ya gotta learn the leads, know what choke to use, and pick the right ammo. If you do your homework you’ll win. The others will just be puzzled and walk away dumbfounded, wishing they were you! All diehard hunters will enjoy this game. Its windy here this time of year, so be on top of your game.
Sta 1: 2 shots, 2nd bird on report. Twice.
Sta 2: 2 shots ,2nd bird on report. Twice.
Sta 3: 3 singles on call.
Sta 4: 3 singles on call.
Sta 5: 3 singles on call.
Sta 6: 2 shots, 2nd bird on report. Twice.
Sta 7: 2 shots, 2nd bird on report. Twice.

April: Spring Fever Open. 50 Skeet (Pump, Lever, or SBS Only)
Apr signals the beginning of life. Birds begin to hatch, flowers bloom, & the official skeet season begins. Show us what you’re made of & come shoot 50 straight. Can’t do it with this type of gun? Odds are the rest cant either & you’ll win anyway. Pain is part of the game! Just leave your high-speed o&u race gun home. Bring out some more challenging guns & show us what you’re made of. Don’t own one? Ok, but if you bring your fancy o&u race gun, you get a 5-bird penalty at registration.

 May: 1st Cut Open. 50 Trap 27yd Handicap Only. Any gun.
This is traditional handicap trap. Everyone shoots 27 yds. Get way back there and show us your best long shots! Look at it this way, you don’t have to walk as far from the clubhouse!

 June: No Excuses Open. 50 Low Gun Doc Adams. Any gun.
Keep that gun below your belt line, folks. Can’t bring that gun up until you see that bird! Move that gun early, the shot is scored as a loss! Jittery guys need not apply! But come anyway. Maybe someone’s worse off than you are.

 July: 2nd Cut Open. 50 Low Gun Old Rule Skeet, Old American Made Guns Only. (Rusty, Worn Finish Brown Guns Encouraged.)
The theme of this match is America! The American game of skeet has changed a lot over the course of 80 years. Back in the 30’s through the 60’s it was played doubles last. To honor America in its early days, this match is played using the old rules. Step right up & give it your best shot. And to honor America’s uniqueness, its American guns only. And, Pre 70’s only as well! If you come with a Euro gun or a newer gun, it’s a 5-point penalty at registration.

 Aug: No Sweat Open. 50 16yd Cut Throat Trap. Miss and Out. (annie oakley)
So, you think you’re the best one on the field huh? We shall see! It’s hot. Its sweaty, concentration falters…and if you’re not careful, the guy next to you can take your shot and you’re done for! This is a fast game. The match doesn’t last long. You all keep shooting until you’re the only one standing in your squad. It may not take 50 rounds. If you like to gamble, you’ll like this game. If you’re good at long shots, odds are you’ll do well. Winner also gets a free try at the 50yd shot challenge afterwards.
Everyone takes 50 rounds to the line.
5 guys line up on a station at the 16yd line.
Everyone loads one and waits.
Point 1 shoots. If he hits it he’s safe. If he misses, point 2 can shoot and be safe if he hits it, forcing 1 out. If 2 holds his shot, 1 is out automatically.
If both 1 and 2 miss, 3 can shoot. If 3 hits it, both 1&2 are out that quick. If 3 misses, he’s out too!
Guns are opened and the squad rotates after every miss.
It is possible to not have a winner on a squad if everyone misses.
The Last standing with a hit on each squad, form up the elimination squad on the 27 yard line to determine a winner.
The match continues until a winner is determined, just like before.

 Sept: 3rd Cut Open. 50 Three House Doc Adams. (Poor Mans 5 Stand) Any gun.
Its dove season. Time to practice. This match is standard Doc Adams rules, except birds can be from a skeet house as well. No one gets the same birds. Bird hunters, you’ll enjoy this one!

 Oct: Harvest Open. 50 Skeet Doubles, Forward or Backward. Any Gun.
It’s traditional skeet doubles. Show us what you got! Or, if you choose to shoot them in backward order, and break both, you get an extra point towards your final score. It’s a good way to catch up if you’re behind! For shoot off’s, its follow the leader doubles. Whatever the first shooter does, the rest must do as well.

 Nov: The Guns Fault Open. 25/25 Same Gun Skeet and Trap. Fixed Choke.
This match is to encourage local farmers to use their meat guns at the range. No fancy fangled screw in choke guns folks. If you do use a screw in, it must stay in the gun. No polychokes! No changing! Declare your choke at registration. No time to change chokes when you’re hunting, right? Ya shoot what ya got!

 Dec: Antifreeze Open. 50 Doc Adams. All bore, 2 shots allowed.
Standard Doc Adams, except load two every time. If you miss, you can take another shot and have it still be counted as a hit. You need to have at least 4 boxes for the day, just in case you need them all. Don’t waste time. It’s cold out! Good news, the clubhouse is heated but the puller isn’t!

25.00 entry fee.
Walk in's 30.00. (Call to make sure it hasn’t been cancelled.)
Pre-registered shooters, bring a walk in friend to shoot the match, save 5.00 on your entry.
First flight 12 noon. Rain or shine.
Shot limited to #6 or smaller.
All club rules apply. NSSA rules and management rules apply for challenges when applicable.

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:48 pm 
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a lot of people forget or never knew that shoot and hoots were 3 day events. people came and set up Friday. shot some. did night birds, had a nice heavy breakfast, shot the main event and shot even more on sunday.
but...as crowds changed, so did desires to shoot.
shoots became more hoot less shoot. eating became the main event.
it got reduced to 2 days when no one shot sunday anymore.
and now, even though its 2 days still....no one hardly comes on Friday to shoot or party.

biggest issue is work schedules letting off workers early on fridays, and time to travel here.
many came but were dead tired. so they passed on shooting at night.
this choked up the main event, because those that never shot yet, tried to wiggle in the main event squads to practice, or they had to start the event with no warm up. (not my fault)
and when the main event was over....many broke camp to head home. some came from fla, minn, alabama, and wi...so they didn't get to shoot the extra games they had.(not my fault)

so...with time...it just faded off into the sunset and our shoot is what it is today as a result of our never ending desire to please shooters. we must be willow trees because we've bent backwards so many ways and never broke a limb. lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Vanzant Clay Pigeon Farm Mo 2 Day Shotgun Shoot 16-17 Oc
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:55 pm 
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so why am I saying this.....
these different shoot events were meant to be shot on the off days.
im only offering it now because the crowds are so small. time isn't an issue. we could probably pull it off by 3pm.



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