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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:31 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:14 pm 
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It hasn't died for me... I recently bought another, my second Merkel 1620. This one also has a 20ga barrel set, useful in the event 16 bore ammo gets scarce during a visit somewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:24 pm 
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That's one of the reasons I reload. I can always buy some Magtec brass hulls if push comes to shove!


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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:25 pm 
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I just bought a new A5 Sweet Sixteen, and I love it, it complements the other 7 I have :D :D :D :D
I reload, so I can reload from 3/4 ounce to 1 1/8 ounce, but I stick with 7/8 ounce loads mostly.


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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:38 pm 
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I just checked my gun safe and counted 11 16 ga SXS's and one 16 ga O/U. I vote for not dead.

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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:26 pm 
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A 3" 16ga would be good for those who would use one for waterfowl. If you're an upland bird hunter who likes a 6 lb. gun, you wouldn't like and don't need a 3" 16, but if you duck and/or turkey hunt, or pheasant hunt where non-tox is required, a 3" 16 would be worthwhile especially in something like Browning's current A5 Sweet Sixteen. The 3" 16ga is not necessarily a "horrendous idea".


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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:19 pm 
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Not dead, but languishing in obscurity due to apathy and marketing choices by manufacturers. I have my Dad's Remington 58 Sportsman 16ga, and the LC Smith Field 16ga he gave me when I was 10 ( its the one he got after he came home from WWII) with which I killed my first deer. I had a Win 1200 16ga pump I got when I was 13 that I nearly wore out and got a 1200 12 ga when I was 18, then a Rem 870 Wingmaster 3 inch 12 ga at 20. I shot my 410, the LC, and the Win 1200 16ga every weekend of dove season and quail season and the days I was off school and at one of the 3 farms. I have no idea how many shells I shot, but I loved the 16 ga guns. Probably 3/4 of my family members that hunted had at least one 16ga. I hope the shells come back in line on price as I like to take the LC out and shoot clays at my friend's farm sometimes. I have an order for a case of 16 ga #71/2 that hasn't been filled in 4 months for $8.50 / box, but they owe me free shipping. I can get some for $12-13 per box, but let them sit. I shoot my 12 and 20ga guns.

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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:43 am 
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My last turkey was dropped by an Auto 5 Sweet 16....as will be my next but there can indeed be times and conditions of hang up and else where more can offer a greater margin for success.
Thinking that margin must result from staying within the 16 frame often appears to be about "watch 'is" than the reality of a gun safe for most folks.

Non-tox of several flavors would sit better in a 3" 16 gauge case, I suppose.....or in a 12 and a 20, for that matter.
Reason enough?...perhaps, perhaps....folks do get bored.
Enough does not have much appeal today....neither does tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
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http://www.16ga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23259

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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
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I like to learn things from people, particularly older Folks with a lot of experience. I don't know so much about the experience part, but I do have some (the "older folks" part is getting to be me). I bought hunting dogs from a retired Deputy Sheriff from Tennessee when I was in my 20s & we hunted together some. This guy was quite a character & the most awesome pistol shot I ever saw. That was likely the only reason he was still alive. When I hear people talk about the 16 ga. & say things like, "there is no need for it", I think of something he once told me. He called me by my first two initials & he pointed his finger at me and said, "Now CB, you are the only person you have to please, if it suits you and you are happy with it, don't pay attention to what anybody else has to say!"


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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:09 am 
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I’m not quite dead yet!


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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:16 am 
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Dr. Duk, I'm glad you are not dead yet! I think we must be in the same boat! Like I was telling a young fellow the other day that was putting old people down, gloat while you can but the clock doesn't discriminate. You will wake up one morning to find that you are old, that is if you live long enough!


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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
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And you NEVER want to wake up "on the wrong side of the grass"!

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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:16 am 
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I’m a gun nut, not just shotguns. There are a couple 16s in my safe, over under and a new A5 sweet 16, which is almost a half pound under 6 pounds. That makes for a very nice upland gun. But so does some of my 12 and 20 ga guns. Ammo availability, I have a MEC Sizemaster in 16, and hulls and wads to last rest of my life.
The 20 is great for small birds, some (me) will say the 28 ga is better. Geese, the 12 ga doesn’t come close to a 3.5” 10 ga. So what’s best, what’s obsolete??? Who cares, shoot what you like, if not all gauges.


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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
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Im a shotgun nut and have shotguns in all common gauges and 410 bore. I put 16ga right up there as one of my favorites but one of few

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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
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There should be a 16ga forum on this site maybe.

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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
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EricB wrote:
There should be a 16ga forum on this site maybe.


There is a 16ga. lovers subforum in the forum titled "The Fringe". It doesn't get much traffic, maybe because it's kind of hidden.


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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:30 am 
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Dr. Duk, I'm glad you are not dead yet! I think we must be in the same boat! Like I was telling a young fellow the other day that was putting old people down, gloat while you can but the clock doesn't discriminate. You will wake up one morning to find that you are old, that is if you live long enough!


That was a quote from a Monty Python movie!


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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:28 am 
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lossking wrote:
EricB wrote:
There should be a 16ga forum on this site maybe.


There is a 16ga. lovers subforum in the forum titled "The Fringe". It doesn't get much traffic, maybe because it's kind of hidden.


Wouldn't that just be a duplicate of the 16ga.com site that gets a lot of traffic from the 16 gauge crowd? Any 16 gauge devotee would be short changing themselves if they don't venture there.

http://www.16ga.com


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 Post subject: Re: "Is the 16 Gauge Dead?"
PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:34 pm 
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Gentlemen,

IMO as long as sportsman hunt Grouse & Woodcock some company will make sure the 16 gauge guns are around to sell to them. In my case I just purchased another antique 16 Gauge Hammer Gun. This 1800's Crescent 16 gauge has been around over 100 years. It will be used for Grouse, Woodcock and Pheasant hunting most of the time. RST & Poly shells are available for the old guns now which adds to the interest in both the old and new 16 gauge guns.

The 16 gauge gun has always been the favorite of many Grouse hunters, IMO the gun manufacturers will be making more O/U 16 gauge guns in the future. If you are a Grouse hunter more than likely you will own either a new or Classic 16 gauge gun.

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L.C. Smith pre 1913 16 gauge 2 barrel set, just one of my 16 gauge double guns.
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