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 Post subject: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:44 pm 
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I am thinking of getting a set of Briley fitted tubes in 20 gauge for my 686 Sporting 30 inch 12 gauge. I am looking for opinions on the ultralight or standard weight.
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 Post subject: Re: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:38 pm 
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.....or should I just buy a 20 gauge 686 sporting.


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 Post subject: Re: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:55 pm 
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If it were me , I'd buy a 20g. There's not a huge difference in a 686.

With tubes , I think you will like the ultralight better.

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 Post subject: Re: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:07 pm 
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Thanks a lot. The tubes are $749.00 and a 686 Sporting 20 is $1900.00, so a little difference.


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 Post subject: Re: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:29 pm 
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sandrooney wrote:
Thanks a lot. The tubes are $749.00 and a 686 Sporting 20 is $1900.00, so a little difference.


I suspect he was talking about the difference between a 12 gauge 686 and a 20 gauge 686.

The change in weight and feel between the two guns will likely be much less than the change that occurs when you add nearly a pound of weight to the barrels of your 12 gauge.

Other than to tell you there is 3 -4 ounces difference between a pair of match tubes and ultralight tubes, there is not much more of value anyone can give you. No one else knows your tolerance or needs when it comes to changing gun balance or barrel weight.


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 Post subject: Re: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:39 am 
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I suggest you buy the Briley short tubes. Full length tubes are going to make your gun waay to barrel heavy.


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 Post subject: Re: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:36 am 
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My experience--

1. short tubes need high end shells to work
2. they are also very dirty and require more cleaning
3. long tubes also require high end shells
4. long ones are not as dirty and require less cleaning
5. a new gun will shoot any shells, even el cheapo ones
6. long tubes are HEAVY and better suited for mounted gun games
7. a new 20g gun can be used mounted or un-mounted (20g Fitasc , for example)
8. I had 28,20 and 12 g 686's and all functioned flawlessly
9. 20g 686 is an ideal gun to take to South America for doves/ducks

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 Post subject: Re: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:58 am 
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There are still a few options not mentioned.

Buy a 20 GA barrel set for your existing 686 - should cost about $1200 plus fitting.

Another option is reloading 7/8 oz in a 12 GA hull, of course this only works if your not required to be shooting that weight in it's native hull.


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 Post subject: Re: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:45 pm 
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Depends how weight sensitive you are. Both will make the gun front end heavy; obviously the ultralites would be less so. If you're only looking at 20ga, I'd consider a set of Briley Sidekick 2.0s, since the weight they add is barely noticeable since it's closer to the center of the gun.

In my experience, 20ga Sidekick 2.0s do tend to result in dirtier bores (so give them a quick swab with an Outers Tico Tool after using them), but they work fine. Briley recommends using premium shells, but I haven't had any problems using cheapo shells like Herters, Federal Top Guns, and Remington Gun Clubs in any of my Briley tubes.


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 Post subject: Re: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:15 pm 
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[quote="sera"]My experience--

"1. short tubes need high end shells to work"

This has not been my experience. I've shot Sidekicks, both 1.0 and 2.0; 20 and 28 gauge in a 12 gauge Beretta for years. Everything I fed them went bang, broke targets, and left the tubes intact. But, hell yeah, they're dirty.


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 Post subject: Re: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:35 am 
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Thanks a lot for all the replies. I am still trying to figure out what I want to do.


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 Post subject: Re: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:10 am 
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We have Ultra-Lites on sale right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Briley Tube Sets.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:05 pm 
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marshfield wrote:
sera wrote:
My experience--

"1. short tubes need high end shells to work"

This has not been my experience. I've shot Sidekicks, both 1.0 and 2.0; 20 and 28 gauge in a 12 gauge Beretta for years. Everything I fed them went bang, broke targets, and left the tubes intact. But, hell yeah, they're dirty.


The chamber and extractors on the Side-kicks and Briley full length are the same. The Side-kicks can be converted to full length tubes. That said, there is no reason for one type to handle shells differently than the other.

I think it is fair to say that both are normally pickier about the shells that they will handle. A number of the Euro sub gauge shells have deeper set primers that don't work well with tubes. If yours does, great for you.




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