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 Post subject: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:42 am 
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I posed this question on the Muller Choke forum and received no replies. Perhaps someone here has an opinion.

I used Optima Plus Chokes in my 686 Silver Pigeon when it is bored for Optima HP Choke tubes. I estimate a couple of thousand target loads have been fired through each barrel. Both styles of tubes still makes up without an issue. My question is, have I caused any permeant damage to the barrels.

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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:53 am 
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OBH Gun Club wrote:
I posed this question on the Muller Choke forum and received no replies. Perhaps someone here has an opinion.

I used Optima Plus Chokes in my 686 Silver Pigeon when it is bored for Optima HP Choke tubes. I estimate a couple of thousand target loads have been fired through each barrel. Both styles of tubes still makes up without an issue. My question is, have I caused any permeant damage to the barrels.

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If the CORRECT chokes still thread in and out smoothly and fit snugly when installed, then the gun should be OK.

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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:24 am 
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I agree with Ulysses. The Plus and HP choke threads are not too dissimilar. If the HP tubes still screw in and seat properly, you should be OK.

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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:42 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:02 pm 
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I’m glad the correct tubes still fit, but the two chokes are not interchangeable and I wouldn’t want anyone to get the idea they are. Damage can occur.


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:58 pm 
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totally not INTERCHANGEABLE

DAMAGE will occur.

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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:28 pm 
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gdub41 wrote:
DAMAGE will occur.


Apparently not.


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:53 pm 
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DEG wrote:
gdub41 wrote:
DAMAGE will occur.


Apparently not.


Apparently not yet!


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:00 pm 
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Dr Duk wrote:
DEG wrote:
gdub41 wrote:
DAMAGE will occur.


Apparently not.


Apparently not yet!


All of which begs the question why any manufacturer would do something like this?


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:13 pm 
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oyeme wrote:
Dr Duk wrote:
DEG wrote:

Apparently not.


Apparently not yet!


All of which begs the question why any manufacturer would do something like this?

To keep the choke tube money? :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:14 pm 
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I wouldn’t want to buy a gun that was used like that.


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:31 pm 
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oyeme wrote:
Dr Duk wrote:
DEG wrote:
[quote="gdub41"]DAMAGE will occur.


Apparently not.


Apparently not yet!


All of which begs the question why any manufacturer would do something like this?[/quote]

When Beretta changes the barrel bore, which is quite often, they change the choke. It’s actually a good idea to make sure you use the right choke, but it gets to be confusing.


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:56 pm 
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For reference... https://estore.beretta.com/en-eu/docume ... ggestions/


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:44 pm 
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pump shooter wrote:
I wouldn’t want to buy a gun that was used like that.


Why? Correct chokes still work fine in the gun and there is apparently no visible damage.


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:50 pm 
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“Visible” is the key. No way to know what damage has been done just by looking at it. Threads aren’t manufactured to be mis-matched. You want to do it, knock yourself out.


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:36 am 
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Beretta literature suggests that the threads are identical, with the HP chokes having more of them.


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:15 am 
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Where the threads start and end might be important.


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:54 am 
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I agree from looking at the pictures of the two choke styles that you might damage the HP barrel threads by screwing in Plus chokes. Then again, you might not. If the HP chokes still screw in properly, it would seem that there's been no thread damage.


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:19 pm 
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pump shooter wrote:
Where the threads start and end might be important.



LOL! Keep spinning.


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 Post subject: Re: Damage from wrong choke tubes
PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:33 pm 
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DEG wrote:
pump shooter wrote:
Where the threads start and end might be important.



LOL! Keep spinning.

Go pound salt and stop following me around like a puppy. LOL!!




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