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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:15 am 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
LogosArms wrote:
a Remington 870 Express - bought in December 2016 during Obummer's last weeks in office.

Got the 870 at Bass Pro on sale with a $50 rebate. Yeah, for $250 what can I expect?

Well... .


Sadly, it appears that Logos was so blinded by hate it was mind-affecting, on that fateful day nearly four years ago. So mind melting, it rendered him incapable of sending the gun to Remington for repair or replacement. I'm sorry to hear of this tragic, debilitating affliction that haunts Logos to this day.


Now-now-Randy, sarcasm is unbecoming although in this case sure looks accurate. :lol:




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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:00 pm 
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EricB wrote:
RandyWakeman wrote:
SuperXOne wrote:
Remington still makes the 870 Wingmaster for those willing to pay two or even three times more than the Express model.


Remington does not currently make any 870s or any firearms at all.


Hard to believe anyone on this forum could be ignorant of that fact.


Harder to believe a guy would buy an Express, take it home sight unseen and complain about fit/finish, in public.


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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:22 pm 
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Randy, ...loved it......


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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:36 pm 
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LogosArms, you got ample reason to not like the express, and that was a pretty good description of your problems. I had better luck with mine, but still never did fall in love with it. I noticed you have the Mossberg 940 and love it. I have been wondering about those. If I did not have a house full of guns, I would try one.

By the way, tron is really a very good natured guy, just likes to stir the pot a lot when he is not screwing up someone's stock. If I did not like to screw up my own stocks I would probably hire him to do mine. Randy, I think is suffering from lackofnookie. I know from personal experience that effects a guy a lot.


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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:09 pm 
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pump shooter wrote:
EricB wrote:
RandyWakeman wrote:
SuperXOne wrote:
Remington still makes the 870 Wingmaster for those willing to pay two or even three times more than the Express model.


Remington does not currently make any 870s or any firearms at all.


Hard to believe anyone on this forum could be ignorant of that fact.


Harder to believe a guy would buy an Express, take it home sight unseen and complain about fit/finish, in public.


As satisfied as I`ve been with mine, I was under no illusions that I was getting Wingmaster quality for 250. Anybody that does, IMO, is being unrealistic. Through it all, most people that have issues seem to have them with the surface treatment (surface rust ). I don`t really recall anybody saying they don`t shoot reliably. Then again, I don`t recall things as well as I used to, either! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:20 pm 
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It was wrapped in plastic at the store. I looked it over at the store and it appeared fine until I got it home. Also, it was during Christmas and at Bass Pro that was a nearly 4 hour wait to pick it up (first and last gun I'll ever buy there).


No one can possibly inspect a firearm properly that is inside plastic. Failure to inspect a gun prior to purchase is 100% the purchasers fault. Invariably, you hear the "first and last gun I'll ever buy there" story . . . as if Bass Pro made the gun. That's not any semblance of customer loyalty. The only reason the gun was purchased at Bass Pro was that they had the cheapest price. It is a certainty that the $50 rebate was instantly applied for. It is all about being cheap.

Yet, Remington customer service has always been excellent and prior to 2016, 870's had a 2 year warranty. It can't be much of a significant problem if the gun was never sent back to Remington for repair or replacement.

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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:21 pm 
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I won't/don't buy any firearms from the big box stores again. I bought my CSMC M21 O/U at their New Britain showroom but due to CT laws I could not take it home. It had to be sent to a FFL in NY. The one LGS that I had bought guns from wouldn't give CSMC their FFL number. CSMC got impatient with them and said to me "Where else can we send it." The only other place that came to mind was Gander Mtn. They made the arrangements and sent it there. When it came in I got a call and went to pick it up. While filling out the paperwork and after passing the background check this young man walks out from the back of the store not with the box but with the shotgun put together. I asked, "Where's the box?" "Oh, out back." he said while laying it on the counter. I said, "Did I ask you to put it together? Are you aware that's a $5,000 shotgun you're messing with." "Oh, wow, is it?" "Yes! and could you please bring out the box, I'm assuming that's where the extra chokes are and please don't handle it again." Who does that??


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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:37 pm 
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That turned my stomach.

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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:24 pm 
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It is definitely not a perfect world.


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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:43 pm 
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twohigh wrote:
I won't/don't buy any firearms from the big box stores again. I bought my CSMC M21 O/U at their New Britain showroom but due to CT laws I could not take it home. It had to be sent to a FFL in NY. The one LGS that I had bought guns from wouldn't give CSMC their FFL number. CSMC got impatient with them and said to me "Where else can we send it." The only other place that came to mind was Gander Mtn. They made the arrangements and sent it there. When it came in I got a call and went to pick it up. While filling out the paperwork and after passing the background check this young man walks out from the back of the store not with the box but with the shotgun put together. I asked, "Where's the box?" "Oh, out back." he said while laying it on the counter. I said, "Did I ask you to put it together? Are you aware that's a $5,000 shotgun you're messing with." "Oh, wow, is it?" "Yes! and could you please bring out the box, I'm assuming that's where the extra chokes are and please don't handle it again." Who does that??


That’s just bad! Hopefully no damage?


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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:04 pm 
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The young man thought he was doing you a favor.

He had probably never seen a high dollar gun before and no one told him any better.

I recently bought a Browning Citori (not a high-dollar gun). If I hadn't read, on this site ( I think), that Browning included a very long Allen Wrench, I'd NEVER have found it. It was buried in between some of the packings inside of the original cardboard box. Its purpose was to remove the stock.

I am never throwing any gun box away.


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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:30 pm 
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EricB wrote:
The Happy Kaboomer wrote:
Many years ago I bought an 870 express turkey gun. First thing I did was spray paint all the exposed metal dark green(rattle can), It hasn't rusted ever! It good with buckshot and turkey loads. It's a keeper. Mossbergs have always felt like a 2x4 in my hands. The Ben-Nova is the most plastic butt ugly shotgun ever made. When I get serious on pumps I shoot my mdl. 12's.


Have you ever seen a Benelli Vinci? It’s the Nova’s ugly step-sister.


Yep. My son has one for ducks. Butt wipe ugly too. My son has another high dollar one that appears to have a PLASTIC GLUED on rib. I don't like/won't an inertia shotgun. Inertia was invented in 1908...........FUNNY. It only took 112 years for it to catch on.


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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:19 pm 
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The Happy Kaboomer wrote:
EricB wrote:
The Happy Kaboomer wrote:
Many years ago I bought an 870 express turkey gun. First thing I did was spray paint all the exposed metal dark green(rattle can), It hasn't rusted ever! It good with buckshot and turkey loads. It's a keeper. Mossbergs have always felt like a 2x4 in my hands. The Ben-Nova is the most plastic butt ugly shotgun ever made. When I get serious on pumps I shoot my mdl. 12's.


Have you ever seen a Benelli Vinci? It’s the Nova’s ugly step-sister.


Yep. My son has one for ducks. Butt wipe ugly too. My son has another high dollar one that appears to have a PLASTIC GLUED on rib. I don't like/won't an inertia shotgun. Inertia was invented in 1908...........FUNNY. It only took 112 years for it to catch on.


I love my Montefeltro; before it every auto I owned was a jam-o-matic. To each his own.

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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:21 pm 
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richg99 wrote:
The young man thought he was doing you a favor.

He had probably never seen a high dollar gun before and no one told him any better.

I recently bought a Browning Citori (not a high-dollar gun). If I hadn't read, on this site ( I think), that Browning included a very long Allen Wrench, I'd NEVER have found it. It was buried in between some of the packings inside of the original cardboard box. Its purpose was to remove the stock.

I am never throwing any gun box away.


I recently bought a new Citori. I need to go look in the box now.

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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:03 am 
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No kidding I need to look as well!


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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:50 pm 
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I used to own an 870, Express too.

Won it about 1998 or so from one of my fellow Guardsmen (Ks. Air Natl Guard Security Forces) whose VFW lodge was raffling it off.

I bought 1 ticket, $5, didn't expect to win, 3 or 4 months later when I had totally forgotten it, he handed it to me one drill weekend.

Yea, finish wasn't finely polished and blued.
Wasn't rusted.
It shot. Seemed to shoot a lot like my other shotguns.
I never really cared for it though, it was The Unloved Sister in the back of the safe.
About a decade ago, a co-worker of mine (Learjet) happened to ask me, knowing I was a gun-guy, if I might know anyone with an 870 for sale. He was looking to purchase a gift for his son who was returning from 'Stan deployment and his Birthday.

"Well Scott, not offhand, BUT, it just so happens, I have one, that isn't really actively "for sale", but let's discuss this".............

IIRC retail was right about $275.
I figure it had about 4 boxes of shells through it....
Sold it to him for $200 and everyone was happy, including his son.

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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:29 am 
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You already have a Mossberg 940 Pro, why not give it a little brother and pick up a little brother for it and get a Mossberg 500? It's still being produced by a family owned company that is still in business.


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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:27 pm 
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For what it is worth, I agree with you totally. If I had a Remington 870 express I would hate it too. Looked at buying one and passed. Fortunately I figured out I hated it before I bought it.


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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:28 pm 
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Bill M. wrote:
For what it is worth, I agree with you totally. If I had a Remington 870 express I would hate it too. Looked at buying one and passed. Fortunately I figured out I hated it before I bought it.


How can you possibly know that? Mine`s just fine. That`s one of the more bizarre statements I`ve seen in a long time.

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 Post subject: Re: It's true. I hate my Remington 870 Express.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:34 pm 
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Different strokes for different folks.

I doubt I could hate any shotgun, I'd just prefer one over the other.




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