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 Post subject: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:48 pm 
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Do u guys use a torque wrench or just do it by feel ?
Also use locktite ?




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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:58 pm 
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I now always use a torque wrench and also clean completely before applying some Blue LockTite. I quickly learned before using a torque wrench, how easy it is to over torque those little bolts. The specification of 28 inch pounds is not that much.


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:12 pm 
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I use this torque wrench:

https://www.wheelertools.com/gunsmithin ... 53556.html

They have very specific specs many times and are often times not forgiving if you overtorque


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:39 pm 
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Seems like 16 in pounds for the ring screws and 30 for the dovetail screws is what I see


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:05 am 
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By hand, and, IF I use Locktite, it's PURPLE (#222), not blue (sure as **** never Red).

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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:30 am 
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I use a proto 1/4" drive, dial indicator, in-lb torque wrench.

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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:55 am 
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I use Warne steel rings almost exclusively.

Installation Instructions

Always verify that your firearm is UN-LOADED before performing any service on it. Warne recommends that you loosely assemble rings and scope onto firearm prior to final mounting to verify eye relief and ring spacing.

WARNE INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS

Remove the 4 screws from both rings.
Place the scope in the ring halves and re-insert recoil key (CZ & Ruger rings do not have specific recoil keys and utilize an integrated recoil management system)
Start all 4 screws on both rings and tighten only the bottom screws to 25in/lb* max.
Place rings onto the bases with the recoil keys in the slots and push each ring towards the muzzle to seat the recoil key
Tighten QD lever, thumb & forefinger tight***. (there is no need to over tighten QD lever)
Adjust eye relief and level the reticle
Once both are correct, tighten the top screws on both rings to scope manufacturers’ recommended torque rating**, maximum of 25 in/lb.
After tightening, pull QD levers out to index them to the desired position.

*Torque Spec are for dry threads, DO NOT USE THREAD-LOCKER COMPOUND

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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:11 am 
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That must be for the quick disconnect type, I don’t have those but assume torque spec is same
I do have a 1/4” drive inch pound torque wrench ...
Have to see if I have the proper size torx but


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:35 pm 
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I use torque wrench and no loctite.


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:43 pm 
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jeffreyk wrote:
I use torque wrench and no loctite.


Same here.
Have mounted many dozen rifles scopes with no Loctite and never had an issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:07 pm 
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25 for steel is fine [I'm more a 20 guy]
it's more like 15 for aluminum. [you know like an Edelbrock intake manifold]


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:24 pm 
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By hand/feel, am careful not to honk down too hard and always use blue Loctite. Never a problem with Conetrol, Redfield, Leupold and others.


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:00 pm 
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I was told by a scope mfg. to use the torque specs set by the scope co. & not to just use the torque spec'd by the ring mfg. The guys making the rings have no idea what scope your using, the scope mfg. knows what their scopes can tolerate.

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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:14 pm 
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Using a torque wrench will let you know pretty quick how often most fasteners are over tightened.


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:31 am 
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John H wrote:
I was told by a scope mfg. to use the torque specs set by the scope co. & not to just use the torque spec'd by the ring mfg. The guys making the rings have no idea what scope your using, the scope mfg. knows what their scopes can tolerate.


That makes a lot of sense.


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:23 am 
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The torque specs on the Leupold PRW rings I have used often are for the base screws 6x40 screws-22 inch lbs. 8x40 screws-28 inch pounds. Ring screws are 28 inch pounds.

I now most commonly use Talley Lightweight 2 piece mounts. I like the base and the rings being one piece and the very light weight.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1781420810?pid=986043


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:55 pm 
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Those Talley Lightweights look nice and the price is right. I might try them sometime when I want to keep the overall weight down. My favorite though, for strength and good looks, is Conetrol although they're a little on the expensive side.

http://www.conetrol.com/signature.html


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:32 pm 
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No torque wrench but my fingers are sort of "calibrated".
Cleaning all parts with alcohol.
A little purple loc-tite on all screws
A little purple loc-tite inside the scope ring-to-scope surfaces unless using the OUTSTANDING Burris Signature Rings which I think are the best rings in the whole universe after having learned my lesson over many years.


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:34 pm 
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lossking wrote:
Those Talley Lightweights look nice and the price is right. I might try them sometime when I want to keep the overall weight down. My favorite though, for strength and good looks, is Conetrol although they're a little on the expensive side.

http://www.conetrol.com/signature.html


None more elegant looking than Conetrol! {hs#


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 Post subject: Re: Torque scope screws ?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:54 pm 
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oyeme wrote:
lossking wrote:
Those Talley Lightweights look nice and the price is right. I might try them sometime when I want to keep the overall weight down. My favorite though, for strength and good looks, is Conetrol although they're a little on the expensive side.

http://www.conetrol.com/signature.html


None more elegant looking than Conetrol! {hs#


Agreed. {hs#




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