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 Post subject: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:33 pm 
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Location: long island n.y.
Looking to put together or get a complete kit with range in mind .

Currently have a basic kit nothing more than superficial bscapes and cuts . Need to supplement it with items for more severe trauma.

Tourniquet , large gauze , blood clotting gauze etc. please chime in with what you use
Items and any specifics ( brands etc )

Lucky to never need it but need to be prepared. I remember seeing an AD first hand at the Skeet field .... all around were lucky and the shot hit the fence across the field !
A bit of a wake up call for sure, yes the fellow that discharged shotgun was escorted from range. Lol.




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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:12 pm 
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mfm22 wrote:
Looking to put together or get a complete kit with range in mind .

Currently have a basic kit nothing more than superficial bscapes and cuts . Need to supplement it with items for more severe trauma.

Tourniquet , large gauze , blood clotting gauze etc. please chime in with what you use
Items and any specifics ( brands etc )

Lucky to never need it but need to be prepared. I remember seeing an AD first hand at the Skeet field .... all around were lucky and the shot hit the fence across the field !
A bit of a wake up call for sure, yes the fellow that discharged shotgun was escorted from range. Lol.


1- Outstanding idea.

2- I keep a CLS bag in my truck at all times w/ Izzy bandages, crinkle tape, HyFins, TQs, Quickclot, triangle bandages, gauze, ace bandages, trauma shears, etc.

3- I know some badass 68W's, who've done amazing stuff with just crinkle tape, gauze and ace bandages.

4- Having the above on hand in a trauma situation is great, knowing how to use it is even better.

Cheers


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:27 pm 
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If the age of your members is like my last club - all retired, then add a defibrillator

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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:33 pm 
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Novak77 wrote:
mfm22 wrote:
Looking to put together or get a complete kit with range in mind .

Currently have a basic kit nothing more than superficial bscapes and cuts . Need to supplement it with items for more severe trauma.

Tourniquet , large gauze , blood clotting gauze etc. please chime in with what you use
Items and any specifics ( brands etc )

Lucky to never need it but need to be prepared. I remember seeing an AD first hand at the Skeet field .... all around were lucky and the shot hit the fence across the field !
A bit of a wake up call for sure, yes the fellow that discharged shotgun was escorted from range. Lol.


1- Outstanding idea.

2- I keep a CLS bag in my truck at all times w/ Izzy bandages, crinkle tape, HyFins, TQs, Quickclot, triangle bandages, gauze, ace bandages, trauma shears, etc.

3- I know some badass 68W's, who've done amazing stuff with just crinkle tape, gauze and ace bandages.

4- Having the above on hand in a trauma situation is great, knowing how to use it is even better.

Cheers

I work with a fellow who was a 68W in the first Gulf war. He talks to me sometimes about his tour. I hope I never see what he has seen. I keep a pretty good first aid kit in my truck most of it things that he said I should have. Hope I never have the need for it.


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:37 pm 
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oneounceload wrote:
If the age of your members is like my last club - all retired, then add a defibrillator

Believe it or not I shoot with a close friend that keeps a defibrillator under the seat of his Ranger and has been trained on when and how to use it. Hope he doesn't ever have to use it on me!


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:53 pm 
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Location: long island n.y.
Thinking of having 2 kits. Basic first aid stuff. And another kit Trauma related items.
Just want to get good quality

Some key things already mentioned by Novak. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:59 pm 
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floridaford wrote:
Novak77 wrote:
mfm22 wrote:
Looking to put together or get a complete kit with range in mind .

Currently have a basic kit nothing more than superficial bscapes and cuts . Need to supplement it with items for more severe trauma.

Tourniquet , large gauze , blood clotting gauze etc. please chime in with what you use
Items and any specifics ( brands etc )

Lucky to never need it but need to be prepared. I remember seeing an AD first hand at the Skeet field .... all around were lucky and the shot hit the fence across the field !
A bit of a wake up call for sure, yes the fellow that discharged shotgun was escorted from range. Lol.


1- Outstanding idea.

2- I keep a CLS bag in my truck at all times w/ Izzy bandages, crinkle tape, HyFins, TQs, Quickclot, triangle bandages, gauze, ace bandages, trauma shears, etc.

3- I know some badass 68W's, who've done amazing stuff with just crinkle tape, gauze and ace bandages.

4- Having the above on hand in a trauma situation is great, knowing how to use it is even better.

Cheers

I work with a fellow who was a 68W in the first Gulf war. He talks to me sometimes about his tour. I hope I never see what he has seen. I keep a pretty good first aid kit in my truck most of it things that he said I should have. Hope I never have the need for it.


Being a former infantryman, we dog everyone who ain't infantry. Except medics, they're good to go {hs#


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:01 pm 
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An AMBU bag, Israeli Bandages, EMT scissors, disposable medical stapler


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:36 pm 
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What's just as important as the kit?

Knowing how to use it! Seek proper training!! Your training will also teach you what you need to carry.


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:43 pm 
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I'd add some eye wash/flush for debris in the eye. I've had powder residue make it past my safety glasses on windy days.


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:37 pm 
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We had a guy die on the 5-stand at a major big blast shoot several years ago. ,folks performed CPR for the 45 minutes it took the EMTs to arrive; after that, for those big blasts, they have EMTs stationed at the shoot; for smaller shoots, they have several defib machines on carts as the guys are riding around.

Cuts and bruises are one thing; heart attack is a whole 'nother ball game.

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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:10 am 
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Training followed up with experience and an awareness of not only how a particular item is used but also why/how it works.

Without the above, the most well equipped kit one could possess is worthless. Even with the above, one's Kit will not likely be at one's side when an emergency rises so what is in there will not be helpful. With training and knowledge and a little thought/imagination one can usually aqequately improvise what is needed from what is at hand. It may not look "pretty" but it will work.

Over the years my basic first aid kit has shrunk from the "Squad 51 Special" I started with to something that fits in a small gym bag or large fanny pack that fits inside an old firefighting helmet. PPE in the form of gloves, goggles, and the helmet with shield are the mainstays. A handful of oral and nasal airways with pocket mask handle airway.

Trauma is handled with a couple trauma dressings, a few 5x9 and 4x4 bandages, and a couple rolls of gauze. For tools I have a medic shears, a couple of forceps, and good duct tape.

Just like shooting, far too much emphasis is placed on equipment with knowledge and understanding of the task at hand mostly ignored. Once again, it's the Indian that matters more than the arrow.


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:35 am 
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Is there cell service and is the address registered with Police/911?


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:23 pm 
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I was a ski patroller for 26 years and went through extensive first aid training and yearly refresher courses to maintain skills. Having equipment and gear on hand is a must but you need to know how to properly use it. I would suggest that you talk to the local fire department, police/sheriff department, American Red Cross, etc and ask if they offer any classes for your type of organization. It would also help if you can organize a contingent of your club to all receive the same training and learn to work together as a team. For instance performing CPR is a physically exhausting proceedure and having a partner to share the work is a good thing. Not knowing how to properly operate a defibulator can result in shocking yourself and bystanders. I commend you for being pro active and being prepared to help when it is needed. Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:08 pm 
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In my experience, a jar of petroleum jelly will go a long way to help stop the bleeding from scope eyebrow or cut fingers. Use it liberally.


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:23 pm 
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Is there a practice and affordable way for a regular person who is not in the military or medical field to get the same type of training in dealing with traumatic injury?

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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:34 am 
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I keep a kit with the basics as mentioned. Also plan to keep a protein bar, or packaged peanut butter crackers (Lance brand or similar). The one time I helped a guy on the clays course was when his blood sugar dropped; a pack of those crackers got him feeling much better until we got him in a cart and back to the clubhouse.


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:12 pm 
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Rubberhead wrote:
Is there cell service and is the address registered with Police/911?

Even if both are true, a significant distance can mean 45+ minutes for them to arrive thus lessening the hour golden window

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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:15 pm 
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Have the coordinates on record with the agency that would take the 911 call, usually the Sheriff’s office.

Determine (professionally), the nearest landing zone. Often in case of very critical injuries, this info on record will be enough to allow responders to summon aircraft.


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 Post subject: Re: First aid kit for range ?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:28 pm 
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Ezra Smack wrote:
Is there a practice and affordable way for a regular person who is not in the military or medical field to get the same type of training in dealing with traumatic injury?


https://fieldcraftsurvival.com/training/medical/

^^^ This ^^^

I've never trained with these guys, but I have buddies who have and everyone says they're good to go.

Lots of ex top tier military guys out there doing civilian classes now.




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