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 Post subject: Re: Barrel with no sideribs
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2020 11:52 am 
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BREAKEMALL wrote:
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Could you Please list each of the Perazzi models, year manufactured, and any previous barrel work performed other than FACTORY, that you and your squad mates are sending to Lucio
for pinning?
Thanks in advance.
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Breakemall
Western North Carolina.


Sure, be glad to but only mine - I don't know the particulars of my squadmates except that a MX12 had barrel work and the MX8 did not, and the barrels have NOT separated on the MX8, but he's doing this as a precaution.

My situation - Mirage Sporting Special, '96, fixed chokes, barrel work. MX8, 2003, custom ext. chokes and barrel work.

I purchased both of my Perazzi used with approx. 50K rounds in them with no previous barrel work. The ribs were ok when purchased because my inspecting gunsmith said they were and to my eyes they were also. He said that the first thing he looks for on Perazzi work are the side ribs.

All of mine and my squadmates barrels have separated during hot Houston weather with a lot of fast continuous shooting without taking the forearms off or pouring water over the barrels.

There are some shooters that say this is impossible but it is what it is.

Update on barrel separation and repair 6-5-20. Lucio said today that actually his MX8, my squadmates, (no previous barrel work) had started to come loose and he pinned the barrels - coming back to us Monday, 3 day turnaround.

When I receive my Mirage back and the work looks good, I may, along with another squadmate that has the MX12, we will decide whether to send our repaired barrel separation by Giacomo to Lucio so he can pin them also as a precaution. Lucio says they will not separate again, so we will see about that once they are pinned.

Update on side ribs - 6-12-20 - Well, Lucio did a 3 day turnaround but 2nd. day air with UPS, once again, not good. No barrels and UPS doesn't know where they are. Said they would get back the first part of next week. Shipped over to Lucio with FEDEX 2nd. day air, no problem. UPS is the worst.

Update conclusion: 6-15-20 - Received barrels back from Lucio, pristine workmanship, so the hassle was well worth it.




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 Post subject: Re: Barrel with no sideribs
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2020 4:22 pm 
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Location: WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA
Thanks 4th. Down.
Great info.
Best,
Breakemall
Western North Carolina


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 Post subject: Re: Barrel with no sideribs
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2020 5:00 pm 
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I was told Perazzi has switched from lead to silver solder to cure the issue. I hope this is the case as I acquired a HT just as covid hit the nation. Just started shooting it.


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 Post subject: Re: Barrel with no sideribs
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:06 pm 
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This Lucio is really something. Did pinning on my side ribs and 2 other squadmates last week and now did another one for me, 1 day turn around.........yep, 1 day and $120 bucks. Once in awhile you can get something right.

PS - he's also pinning side ribs, post 2013 Perazzi manufacturing.


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 Post subject: Re: Barrel with no sideribs
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:29 pm 
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I own a Perazzi 2000 that has the side ribs and top rib come loose. I bought the gun used and didn’t know it had the forcing cones removed. I think that is what created the problems. I had the top rib repaired at Perazzi USA and I repaired the side ribs myself using black silicone sealant. Both fixes are holding well. One my shooting buddies side ribs came loose and he had them pinned. My experience says it is a fairly common problem on Perazzi’s.
Note: neither Krieghoff or Kolar come with side ribs.


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 Post subject: Re: Barrel with no sideribs
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:02 pm 
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Tvbh40a wrote:
I was told Perazzi has switched from lead to silver solder to cure the issue. I hope this is the case as I acquired a HT just as covid hit the nation. Just started shooting it.


If in fact Perazzi has changed to silver soldering barrels then they will be able to blue them with chemical hot salts instead of cold rust (Belgium) and this should lower the cost to them and the customer.
However if they are silver soldering by hand then regulation can and does become a problem.
Other manufactures eliminate this problem by induction brazing the hole barrel assembly in an oven where the whole assembly is evenly heated until the solder wicks into the gaps and then the assembly is slowly cooled so as not to induce any stress.
Has anyone with a newer P gun noticed if the barrels are hot blued ?

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 Post subject: Re: Barrel with no sideribs
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:33 pm 
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Both of my MX2000/3 barrels had to have the side-ribs resoldered. The ribs never came off but when I sent the barrels to Giacomo Sporting to be reblued I was told the ribs were loose.


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 Post subject: Re: Barrel with no sideribs
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:21 am 
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I recognize that barrel weight can be reduced somewhat by adding side ribs but if this is as pronounced a problem as this thread indicates; why not go to a set of barrels without side ribs? The MT-6 was built like that and I never had a moments trouble with it even when it got super hot shooting on a hot day while shooting doves in Central America.


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 Post subject: Re: Barrel with no sideribs
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:19 pm 
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B/c it's not a big problem. Never has been.

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 Post subject: Re: Barrel with no sideribs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:49 am 
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sera wrote:
B/c it's not a big problem. Never has been.


Sera,

I not sure how many have to come loose to be considered a problem but where I shoot in the Pacific Northwest about half of the MX8 and Mx2000 owners have had their ribs come loose and some more than once.
I consider that a problem, and an expensive repair.
It seems that Lucio has come up with the least expensive and quickest repair.

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 Post subject: Re: Barrel with no sideribs
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:29 pm 
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Everyone in my squad has a Perazzi, 3 had barrel work and separated, 2 never have had barrel work and are ok.




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