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 Post subject: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:32 pm 
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Hi all,

Wondering which semi-auto that is in the under $800
range new that has the best trigger?

I was thinking in terms of either gas or inertia and models like
Tristar G2, Mossberg 930, Beretta A300, Weatherby Element,
Franchi Affinity 3, and so forth.

I am aware of the M-Carbo spring kit for the SA-20, SA-08, etc. I did one
On my wife’s Mossberg SA-20. It helped reduce the weight of the pull,
But not the crispness of the break of course.

Any insights or experience with what you thought was an exceptional
Or better than average trigger out of the box are appreciated.

Best and stay safe!




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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:40 am 
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scribe556 wrote:
Wondering which semi-auto that is in the under $800
range new that has the best trigger?


Easily, the roller sear of the Remington V3.

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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:50 am 
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Thanks Randy!

Regardless of the shutdown, there should be parts around
Made by someone....

Will look at the V3 first based on your advice.

Best,

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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:27 am 
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V3 is a very good field and informal clays gun. Light recoil. Can highly recommend.

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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:40 am 
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The V3's trigger is one of its greatest attributes. I am a trigger snob from many years of trying to compete plus a tendency to flinch with a hard or mushy feeling trigger pull. I think the V3 has as crisp, light and consistent feel as any I have had and that includes Perazzi's. That is amazing to me for a semi auto.

Krieghoffs are supposed to have industry best triggers and I am sure they do, but I have never owned one. :(

However, they don't qualify for inclusion in a discussion of sub $800 guns!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:42 am 
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I’m also a trigger snob, have upgraded triggers in most of my long
Guns and pistols.

Great recommendations and thank you All!


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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:02 am 
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Randy, Tidefanatic, Oyeme,

Any others with notably good triggers out of the box besides the V3?

Many thanks,

Scribe556


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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:02 am 
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scribe556 wrote:
Randy, Tidefanatic, Oyeme,

Any others with notably good triggers out of the box besides the V3?

Many thanks,

Scribe556


Actually there is one other semi auto that I had with a great trigger; the Browning Double Auto. It is of course no longer made so used is all you will find, but they are available for less than $800. Check this one out already equipped with CTs.

https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 4&t=514038


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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:52 am 
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scribe556 wrote:
Randy, Tidefanatic, Oyeme,

Any others with notably good triggers out of the box besides the V3?

Many thanks,

Scribe556


Scribe, I`ll personally have to defer to Randy, Oyeme and others who have more extensive experience with many guns. It`s always an issue with gun comparison questions in finding side by side evaluations. Randy Wakeman has probably handled/owned/ compared more and different brands than anyone else on SW. As for me, I can only speak to the V3 because I own and shoot one.

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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:48 am 
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Tidefanatic wrote:
scribe556 wrote:
Randy, Tidefanatic, Oyeme,

Any others with notably good triggers out of the box besides the V3?

Many thanks,

Scribe556


Scribe, I`ll personally have to defer to Randy, Oyeme and others who have more extensive experience with many guns. It`s always an issue with gun comparison questions in finding side by side evaluations. Randy Wakeman has probably handled/owned/ compared more and different brands than anyone else on SW. As for me, I can only speak to the V3 because I own and shoot one.
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Tidefanatic,

You used to own a B80 and currently own a Fabarms Initial Hunter. I am curious as to what your assessment is of the B 80 because the Fabarms is well above $800.


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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:02 am 
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oyeme wrote:
Tidefanatic wrote:
scribe556 wrote:
Randy, Tidefanatic, Oyeme,

Any others with notably good triggers out of the box besides the V3?

Many thanks,

Scribe556


Scribe, I`ll personally have to defer to Randy, Oyeme and others who have more extensive experience with many guns. It`s always an issue with gun comparison questions in finding side by side evaluations. Randy Wakeman has probably handled/owned/ compared more and different brands than anyone else on SW. As for me, I can only speak to the V3 because I own and shoot one.
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Tidefanatic,

You used to own a B80 and currently own a Fabarms Initial Hunter. I am curious as to what your assessment is of the B 80 because the Fabarms is well above $800.


Terrific shotgun. As you know, it`s essentially a re-badged ( Browning ) Beretta 303. Built by Beretta under contract back in the early to mid 80`s for Browning. Has the spring in the stock which is a bit " old fashioned " I guess, but a well made and balanced field gun IMO. I still own it, by the way.

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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:14 am 
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I was referring to the trigger pull as requested by the OP.


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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:23 am 
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oyeme wrote:
I was referring to the trigger pull as requested by the OP.


Oh, sorry. I`ve never put a scale on any of the triggers on my guns, but I know that the trigger on the B80 trips easily when I suspend the gun by the trigger. I`m sure Randy, being our resident B80 expert, knows the trigger pull, however.

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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:56 pm 
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I know it will add some cost but Cole gun smithing in Maine does an excellent trigger job on the Beretta shotguns. Crisp and light.


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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:23 pm 
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scribe556 wrote:
Randy, Tidefanatic, Oyeme,

Any others with notably good triggers out of the box besides the V3?

Many thanks,

Scribe556


Of course, factory semi-autos do vary gun to gun. The $800 price limit is a bit arbitrary. Most of my semi-autos have had trigger work done. The Browning Automatic-Five has always had excellent triggers with no gunsmithing.

Plastic trigger blocks tend to stretch: many of them are not consistent and really won't be. The Savage 220 Turkey gun has a fabulous trigger: the Accu-Trigger, which is user-adjustable to boot.

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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:20 am 
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Update:

I went into a shop and shouldered the Affinity 3 along with several others.

I found the fit to be very nice for me. Workmanship and general
Fit/finish seemed to be excellent.

I also found the trigger to be pleasing to me with minimal
spongy take up or stacking. It seemed to break with a relatively crisp and
clean snap. In my opinion it was very good off the rack.

I decided to buy it in 28” 12 Ga black synthetic as I got a
Very nice deal on one.

Best

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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:12 am 
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This is interesting. I couldn’t tell you which of my shotguns have a good trigger. I sold a Belgium double that had a trigger pull which felt like the safety was still on. Other than that I don’t even notice. On pistols and rifles it’s obvious to me which ones have a crisp trigger. I must be the opposite of a trigger snob on shotguns. I need to check my inventory now.

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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:54 am 
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Out of curiosity, why does trigger pull matter that much for a shotgun? I own several shotguns, including the V3, 1 browning cynergy, mossberg 590, and 3 tristars. I've tried many of the fabram, browning, benelli and berretta guns and find their trigger pulls to be about the same. I've even shot a $20k Perazzi and didn't find the trigger to be that much different. The guns all had differences in recoil, LOP, quality of parts, etc, but the triggers didn't seem to that much a difference, especially for trap and skeet.

Just curious...


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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:58 am 
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Wowzer wrote:
Out of curiosity, why does trigger pull matter that much for a shotgun? I own several shotguns, including the V3, 1 browning cynergy, mossberg 590, and 3 tristars. I've tried many of the fabram, browning, benelli and berretta guns and find their trigger pulls to be about the same. I've even shot a $20k Perazzi and didn't find the trigger to be that much different. The guns all had differences in recoil, LOP, quality of parts, etc, but the triggers didn't seem to that much a difference, especially for trap and skeet.

Just curious...



To some it is a big deal, to others it is no big deal, just depends on which side of the fence you are on. Pretty much just like everything else. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Sub-$800 Semi Auto with the Best Trigger?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:28 am 
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Wowzer wrote:
Out of curiosity, why does trigger pull matter that much for a shotgun? I own several shotguns, including the V3, 1 browning cynergy, mossberg 590, and 3 tristars. I've tried many of the fabram, browning, benelli and berretta guns and find their trigger pulls to be about the same. I've even shot a $20k Perazzi and didn't find the trigger to be that much different. The guns all had differences in recoil, LOP, quality of parts, etc, but the triggers didn't seem to that much a difference, especially for trap and skeet.

Just curious...



A light trigger will help with flinch. Well, it will at least reduce the distance the barrel moves before it goes bang.




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