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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:50 pm 
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I deleted all my photos from PB so they can't put them in their 'extensive' album (like 'Pintrest') when it becomes obvious I have no intention of paying the ransom. I'll just keep my photos to myself except for sharing with folks I've established good enough rapport with to exchange e-mails with.




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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:29 am 
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Anatidae wrote:
I deleted all my photos from PB so they can't put them in their 'extensive' album (like 'Pintrest') when it becomes obvious I have no intention of paying the ransom. I'll just keep my photos to myself except for sharing with folks I've established good enough rapport with to exchange e-mails with.


Good for you and I agree, I'm thoroughly annoyed by their idiotic ransom. I refuse to even use PB now. I'm not sure what other service I may use some day but at this point I'm not using anything. It's sad that all the pics in this and countless other threads have now vanished.

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1959 Browning Superposed, 12ga, Gr 1, 28" Mod / Imp Cyl
1986 Browning 325 12ga Citori
1993 Browning 325 20ga Citori
1972 Browning A-5 Light Twelve
1969 Browning A-5 Magnum 12ga


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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:48 pm 
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Very unfortunate. 'Guess I'll have to write a book, now. Dammit!

I went to remove the remaining photos and they have them hostage. They want you to complete a survey......"we would like your feedback". No....actually, you just want money.

Then when you X outa that, another pop-up wants you to upgrade TODAY!

X outa that and another pop-up with 4 ads wanting you to upgrade for $9.99/month ad-free.

You can't 'X' out of that one.......the site locks-up and you just get a faint glimpse of your photo library you can't access because the site times-out loading all their ads, pop-ups and other ransom demands.

What's that sound?????? .............Photobucket.......self-destructing.


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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:54 am 
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I just deleted mine.


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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:36 pm 
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Dirtfarmer,

Yes this outrage by PB is just a trajedy for countless forums and threads on the net I'm sure. It looks like a suicide attempt on the part of PB - as now all they've done is create an intense animosity towards themselves. Idiots...

DF, I was actually wondering what you were going to do in the case of this thread here. I understand you not wanting to go back theough the entire thing and replace the pics. If you do find a way to share them here again perhaps just load them into this last page here where they may be seen and enjoyed. Your Askins Super is a treasure that I'd sure enjoy seeing again. :)

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1959 Browning Superposed, 12ga, Gr 1, 28" Mod / Imp Cyl
1986 Browning 325 12ga Citori
1993 Browning 325 20ga Citori
1972 Browning A-5 Light Twelve
1969 Browning A-5 Magnum 12ga


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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:24 am 
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I may from time to time, as time allows, post some photos via Imgur. At least for the time being they're not into extortion.

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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:25 am 
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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:53 am 
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DF,

Thanks for posting the pic that's great! Over time post more if you're able, I'm sure all here would appreciate it immensely.

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1959 Browning Superposed, 12ga, Gr 1, 28" Mod / Imp Cyl
1986 Browning 325 12ga Citori
1993 Browning 325 20ga Citori
1972 Browning A-5 Light Twelve
1969 Browning A-5 Magnum 12ga


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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:21 pm 
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Col. Chas. Askins, Jr. home in North San Antoio, TX.

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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:27 pm 
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Major Askins holding this shotgun. Easy to ID with "fingerprint" wood pattern. The trigger guard has most of the blue worn off, probably in part from the way he carried it.

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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:10 pm 
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Worn trigger guard, probably reflecting his carry technique. Other pictures show him holding it like that.

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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:13 pm 
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Note the single trigger actually in the rear trigger slot for a double set up. Also, the selector. This predated the Val Browning trigger now seen in modern Supers.

I like that trigger position even better than the later configuration.

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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:27 pm 
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Bill Askins who I met and worked with putting this thread together. He has been most helpful, is a great guy. Here he is on one of his fancy Dressage mounts with trainer. Bill looks a lot like his Dad, Col. Askins.

Bill lives in San Antonio, is into real estate and aviation. As those who have read Unrepentant Sinner by the Col, Bill served in Viet Nam with the "company", had his own Montagnard army. When Saigon fell, he took his army into Thailand, "liberated" a C-130 and flew many to safety. Those who couldn't fit on the 130 were assigned to a "liberated" ship, but that vessel was later captured by the NVA.

Very interesting guy, maybe not as colorful as his Dad, but the real deal...

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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:33 pm 
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The Major.

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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:08 pm 
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Amazing Super and story. Priceless!!!


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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:56 pm 
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The original recoil pad was long gone, the replacement in poor condition. The finish was orange peeling, looked pretty rough. I had started working on it before finding out the provenance. I then took the ongoing project to a real pro, James Flynn, who restored the wood. I could have gotten a modern reproduction Hawkins pad, but didn't like them that much. Because Flynn is such a master craftsman, known for his pig skin pads, I had him fit one.

Now, the pigskin pad is period correct, just not original to this gun, but could have been. The wood turned out really nice. The Major had stroke with the Brownings and this wood is about Grade IV in todays grades, not something found on standard grade guns, back then or now.

The dark wood grain streaks in the butt stock are not too unlike fingerprints, identifying this gun as the one he's holding in numerous photos.

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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:02 pm 
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Thanks so much for re-adding the pics and the commentary with them. This is the first time I've noticed that selector switch down next to the trigger. Very interesting.

Very kind of Bill to assist in this thread, which is approaching a historical narrative at this point.

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1959 Browning Superposed, 12ga, Gr 1, 28" Mod / Imp Cyl
1986 Browning 325 12ga Citori
1993 Browning 325 20ga Citori
1972 Browning A-5 Light Twelve
1969 Browning A-5 Magnum 12ga


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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:12 pm 
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The Major loved to shoot desert quail, like those he's holding in the above photo. According the the Col, he didn't miss a flying target very often.

The gun was choked to his specifications, 50% up, 45% down. It patterns slower loads and larger shot tighter. High brass #9's present a wide, dense pattern, great for quail. Those medium chokes can be quite versatile when fed the appropriate loads.

Front bead looks European to me. The Major was a stickler for detail, this type bead probably on his spec sheet.

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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:19 pm 
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Thanks jcs, it has been quite an adventure. With Bill's help we have Askins info not otherwise published. I'm grateful to him for his time and assistance.

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 Post subject: Re: 1933 Superposed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:39 pm 
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That front bead is unique. What did the typical front bead look like on these early Superposed?



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1959 Browning Superposed, 12ga, Gr 1, 28" Mod / Imp Cyl
1986 Browning 325 12ga Citori
1993 Browning 325 20ga Citori
1972 Browning A-5 Light Twelve
1969 Browning A-5 Magnum 12ga


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