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 Post subject: Re: Ejectors into Extractors-Citori, Cynergy & BT-99(w/pics)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:32 pm 
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Thanks for adding to the base of parts and knowledge on this project.

The guys that I were shooting with last week seemed to take pride in rocketing their shells all over. Of course, on that range, they don't have to pick up their own hulls.




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 Post subject: Re: Ejectors into Extractors-Citori, Cynergy & BT-99(w/pics)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:36 pm 
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Anyone ever tried this with a Browning BSS? The springs on the schematic look like it could be done easily just maybe not 1911 firing pin springs.
I need to look at that.

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 Post subject: Re: Ejectors into Extractors-Citori, Cynergy & BT-99(w/pics)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:58 pm 
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I don't know much, and I only have experimented on my CX.

However, if ANY gun had a similar spring arrangement, it would seem to this old codger that shortening or replacing those driver springs with less powerful pieces would simply lessen the "pop" and allow for extraction rather than ejection.

I hope that some of our most knowledgeable posters will jump in.


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 Post subject: Re: Ejectors into Extractors-Citori, Cynergy & BT-99(w/pics)
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:32 am 
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richg99 wrote:
I don't know much, and I only have experimented on my CX.

However, if ANY gun had a similar spring arrangement, it would seem to this old codger that shortening or replacing those driver springs with less powerful pieces would simply lessen the "pop" and allow for extraction rather than ejection.

I hope that some of our most knowledgeable posters will jump in.

Exactly. Once I get back to the home 40 next week one of the first things is to get into the SxS and take a look. I have a large assortment of small springs and may just find a pair that will work.

tp (with a mission)

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 Post subject: Re: Ejectors into Extractors-Citori, Cynergy & BT-99(w/pics)
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:06 pm 
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Thank you Rastoff for taking the time to put this together !!

New to me 1983 Citori Trap, came from an 870 so I was glad to not have to pick up hulls off the ground anymore but being left handed tired quickly of popping it into my stomach.

The original Brownells link doesn't work anymore and I get scared ordering off the internet only to find it's similar but wrong or I can't perform the work. The ACE hardware link for C-580 spring referenced earlier they don't carry anymore, on trapshooters someone mentioned the actual size 1/4x1.25x.032 which they didn't have in their rack,
I ended up with a 15/64x2.25(aprox.)x?? it was stock number #150 and $1.08 ea

The only issue I had was not paying attention to what screws came from what hole, the tops all looked the same so I wasn't paying any attention as I was so happy they were actually unscrewing and not stripping the slot heads, I've attached a picture showing their order against the iron,

It took me about 15 minutes and the second one I did on the picnic table at the range after I tested to see if the first would extract properly

/// editing in a minute to add pictures //
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pictures were to big and I don't have time to mess with converting them from my phone, if somebody really needs to see the screws let me know and I'll get it done,

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 Post subject: Re: Ejectors into Extractors-Citori, Cynergy & BT-99(w/pics)
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:02 pm 
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Just did this conversion. Worked really great. There are two lengths of screw so make sure you know which goes where. The shorter will fit in either hole, but the longer needs a specific hole and I confess I do not remember now which was which. Anyway if a screw does not go tight for you dont force it just flip them around and they will work.
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 Post subject: Re: Ejectors into Extractors-Citori, Cynergy & BT-99(w/pics)
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:21 pm 
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T-Pee wrote:
richg99 wrote:
I don't know much, and I only have experimented on my CX.

However, if ANY gun had a similar spring arrangement, it would seem to this old codger that shortening or replacing those driver springs with less powerful pieces would simply lessen the "pop" and allow for extraction rather than ejection.

I hope that some of our most knowledgeable posters will jump in.

Exactly. Once I get back to the home 40 next week one of the first things is to get into the SxS and take a look. I have a large assortment of small springs and may just find a pair that will work.

tp (with a mission)

Well, I opened her up and took a look. The ejector hammer springs on a BSS are a completely different animal than the Browning O/Us. They are small and very strong so I decided to just hold a hand over the hulls when breaking the gun open rather than try to deal with the ejectors on this gun for the time being.

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 Post subject: Re: Ejectors into Extractors-Citori, Cynergy & BT-99(w/pics)
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As a person who likes immediate gratification, I took a slightly different approach. I "borrowed" the spring out of one of my 1911's, put it into my pocket and drove to a local hardware store and was able to match that spring out of their parts bins. I bought four of them at something like $.50 each and modified two of my guns that very afternoon. The mod worked perfectly.

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 Post subject: Re: Ejectors into Extractors-Citori, Cynergy & BT-99(w/pics)
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 Post subject: Re: Ejectors into Extractors-Citori, Cynergy & BT-99(w/pics)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:44 pm 
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jmacgreg wrote:
As a person who likes immediate gratification, I took a slightly different approach. I "borrowed" the spring out of one of my 1911's, put it into my pocket and drove to a local hardware store and was able to match that spring out of their parts bins. I bought four of them at something like $.50 each and modified two of my guns that very afternoon. The mod worked perfectly.

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12/26" ATI Cavalry (waiting >3 months now for a frikkin' firing pin)


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