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Timeline for the Browning Auto 5 1903 – 1940
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Author:  FINFN [ Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Timeline for the Browning Auto 5 1903 – 1940

My fn numbers is 15820 how old is that gun?

Author:  Gbmarli [ Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Timeline for the Browning Auto 5 1903 – 1940

This is my latest acquisition...
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It all seems original and well looked after. The serial number in this thread suggest 1929, but proof marks point to a slightly later gun if I have interpreted them correctly. I'm looking forward to getting some shells through it.

GB

Author:  Rudolph31 [ Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Timeline for the Browning Auto 5 1903 – 1940

FINFN wrote:
My fn numbers is 15820 how old is that gun?


If yours is a 16 gauge with no prefix to the serial number, it is circa 1913.

Author:  SGTmaddox [ Sat May 28, 2016 9:00 pm ]
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Not to tease, but I recently acquired a 1903 specimen with matching numbers and original forearm and straight stock. It just so happened in the same weekend I bought a 1921 European model that also is numbers matching and has a straight stock. I am going to be out of the State for training the next few weeks but I will post detailed pics ASAP!

Author:  BradIXXI [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:54 pm ]
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Yep, long time lurker thought it is time to find out about the markings on my A5.
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Thanks for your help and the hard work that went into research for this thread.
Kindest Regards,
Stringfellow

Author:  Tijeras_Slim [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:07 am ]
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Look at page 4 of this thread and all will be revealed.

Author:  Ade Webb [ Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:03 am ]
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Hi Rudolph,

I am mindful it has been a year since you were kind enough to spend time helping me with many questions on my newly acquired Auto 5.

Well, the current state of play is that other than acquiring a set of screwdriver bits, action spring and action tube plug that's as far as I have got unfortunately.

What is positive though is that my 1904 Browning Auto 5 is in safe keeping and one day soon, hopefully, it will be able to fire more than just one shot at a time. I still find it incredible that the gun was made in 1904 especially when you look at the cars, motorcycles and other technology that was around in that year. A tribute to the genius of John Moses Browning indeed.

I hope 2017 brings you health and happiness and for myself it brings that elusive firing pin and the time to get my Auto 5 finally cycling!

Happy New Year!

Regards,

Adrian.

Author:  Rudolph31 [ Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Timeline for the Browning Auto 5 1903 – 1940

Hello Adrian and Happy New Year!

I get it that you are still searching for an affordable firing pin. But if I were you I'd tear it down and see what else may be broken. I'd be interested to know if the Locking Block has the double rails of the 1903 or the single narrow rail used until 1958. Also, if the Barrel Extension has the "notch".

You've kept me waiting long enough!

Good to hear from you,

R

Author:  Ade Webb [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Timeline for the Browning Auto 5 1903 – 1940

Hi Rudolph,

I had been thinking I should strip the gun down to check if anything else needs attention. Originally my thoughts were to get my parts gun first to have everything to hand and not to leave it disassembled for any length of time.
That said there's nothing to say all parts (especially the breech block?) would be interchangeable in any case.

I do really need to get my act together and tear it down.

One easy question to answer, my barrel extension is the same as your first year gun. No notch.

Regards,

Adrian

Author:  Rudolph31 [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:05 pm ]
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Thanks for the information, Adrian. Your Breech Block , Locking Block, and Barrel Extension are unique to the very early guns. But since there is a double rail, I don't think you'll need to worry about them breaking. I'd like to get a look at your broken firing pin.

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Author:  S&W_Aussie [ Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:33 pm ]
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Hi :)

This is my first post and I am a newbie to A5's.

I am looking at purchasing one here in Australia. Below are its details:

* Serial 15592
* Straight stock - no pistol grip
* Receiver stamped - FABRIQUE - NATIONALE - HERSTAL - LIEGE. BELGIUM – BROWNING’S – PATENTS. OCT. 9. 1900 – DEC. 17. 1901 – SEPT. 30. 1902 – JUNE. 16. 1903
* The finger groove on the fore end does not continue to the end of the timber
* It has no magazine cut off

After reading this thread it seems to be an early 1905 serial number but with changes described in the 1906 style (no-mag cut off). Its not in great condition but we are not spoiled for choice in Australia lol.

Below are pictures of the receiver.

It is currently with LGS and I am looking to confirm my dating before I buy it :)

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for helping a newbie out!

Mike

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Author:  Rudolph31 [ Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Timeline for the Browning Auto 5 1903 – 1940

Hello S&W Aussie, and welcome to ShotgunWorld.

Looks like you've studied Martin's post well, and I agree with your conclusions. It's strange that FN was still shipping guns without the cut off two years after it became standard. The original forearm is a find. I see quite a few early guns for sale but none have ever had proper forearm. You should also check to see if it has the original butt plate.

Looking forward to more posts with more pictures.

Author:  Kingjackqueen [ Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:23 am ]
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I have my fathers A5 12 gauge with a 30 in barrel solid rib. It is all original. Based upon the serial number #217797 I believe its from 1939.
I recently took it to an authorized Browning Dealer and am having it restored to a like new condition. New bluing and high gloss on the stock and forearm.
Some have told me I'll ruin the value of the gun. Others have asked me If I intended on selling it or passing down to future generations? I was advised that if I was to sell it to not have it restored. I was also advised by the same individual that if I intended to hand it down from generation to generation then go ahead and restore it if that is what I wanted to do.

Thoughts?

Author:  Rudolph31 [ Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Timeline for the Browning Auto 5 1903 – 1940

Auto-5's from the 1930's are not rare, so if yours needs restoration it didn't have any collector value to begin with. Although you won't hurt its value, it will cost more to restore than you'd get back if you sold it. Since that isn't your intention, I think you're doing the right thing.

Author:  Kingjackqueen [ Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Timeline for the Browning Auto 5 1903 – 1940

Rudolph31 wrote:
Auto-5's from the 1930's are not rare, so if yours needs restoration it didn't have any collector value to begin with. Although you won't hurt its value, it will cost more to restore than you'd get back if you sold it. Since that isn't your intention, I think you're doing the right thing.


Thanks for the feedback!

Author:  Kingjackqueen [ Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Timeline for the Browning Auto 5 1903 – 1940

Rudolph31 wrote:
Auto-5's from the 1930's are not rare, so if yours needs restoration it didn't have any collector value to begin with. Although you won't hurt its value, it will cost more to restore than you'd get back if you sold it. Since that isn't your intention, I think you're doing the right thing.


Thanks for the feedback!

Author:  handbra [ Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:46 pm ]
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Hey Guys, I have some oddities of my (presumed) 1936 FN. I'm guessing it's a barrel replacement, since it is state side, but it still has Belgian proofs. Any additional information would be appreciated! It's clearly in terrible condition, but I'd like to learn more about it.

SN 192***
http://imgur.com/X4ed3Pq
http://imgur.com/H9J9TVw

Original Butt pad
http://imgur.com/trbTwRD

Original Forearm
http://imgur.com/Ua8JvSs

Here is where it gets weird:
Barrel Proofs
http://imgur.com/Alaqnlh

** - Special Steel 12 Gauge Shells 2 3/4"
http://imgur.com/DB2s0o6

More Barrel Proofs
http://imgur.com/m8E84z2
http://imgur.com/hrW69o8

Barrel SN (Presumably)
http://imgur.com/70jRc9W

Proofs where I expected the SN
http://imgur.com/ZJzukYx

Author:  Rudolph31 [ Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Timeline for the Browning Auto 5 1903 – 1940

No mystery, you've got a 1936 receiver with a Light Twelve barrel made between 1959-1963. The number on the barrel is not the serial number, they quit doing that in 1953. But back when they did stamp the number on the barrel it appeared on the ring.

Author:  indy steve [ Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:56 pm ]
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Hi all, I am new to the forum and looking to Id my A5 or A3...still confused on this. It has a sn of 221687. It says Browning 3 Shot on the fore grip and is shorter than my other A5's. I will post some pics. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_3GlL ... =drivesdk/
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_3GlL ... p=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_3GlL ... p=drivesdk

Update: So I've found a pre ww2 A5 3 Shot with all matching sn's. It is a Belgium also. Any idea on value?

Author:  Rudolph31 [ Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Timeline for the Browning Auto 5 1903 – 1940

Hello and welcome. You've got one of the last Auto-5's made before the Germans invaded in 1940. John Browning may have named his gun "Auto-5" because of the capacity, but that's still the name even though yours holds less. Originally to get a 3-SHOT you ordered the special forearm and had your magazine modified. Later it became a catalog item.

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