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 Post subject: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:25 pm 
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Hi Guys, i'm considering this gun as an extra over under. I currently use a Browning 725 sporting twice a week at the club but im thinking about the Cynergy as a rain/winter over under to keep my 725 out of the elements in bad weather (I've seen guys fall in the winter and destroy their wood). I also have a Stoeger M3000 in wood and burnt bronze cerekote. I've been using for that which has been great. My thoughts are only heading to the Cynergy now as its a all weather gun and still an O/U so I'm consistent with and over under that shoots 50/50 and not have to pick up mu hulls after a day of shooting (yes im getting older).
If I did get it, i'd probably sell the stoeger (which I do Like)as i'm a minimalist and would have the cynergy for all other hunting applications which I only get out a few times a year for turkey, a walk with my dog. I do not shoot rifled slugs out of the shotgun but do have a few boxes if I'd ever need to.
just wondering who has one and your overall thoughts.
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 Post subject: Re: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:09 pm 
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It is a big downgrade from your 725: a special type of ugly with the old wacky recoil pad and (ugh!) 3-1/2 inch chambers. https://www.browning.com/products/firea ... ility.html .

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:19 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
It is a big downgrade from your 725: a special type of ugly with the old wacky recoil pad and (ugh!) 3-1/2 inch chambers. https://www.browning.com/products/firea ... ility.html .

I know it is, im just looking for an all weather type over under. I agree the 3.5" chamber is useless, the recoil pad i dont mind so much. To be honest, i had the older 2017 MOSGB version but I hated the duratouch finish as it was way too sticky in warmer weather and found it was starting to wear a little which wasn't as big a deal as the feeling of a sticky gun.
i know the new ones did away with the duratouch coating

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 Post subject: Re: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:34 pm 
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Well, I wouldn't get too cranked-up over the theory of an all-weather O/U shotgun assuming you sleep indoors. I've hunted arctic Quebec a few times, as well as Manitoba-herd caribou several times, Newfoundland for moose (and spruce grouse), high volume snow geese on the St. Lawrence Seaway, etc., etc.--- exclusively with blued / walnut shotguns and rifles. This is with all kinds of rain, freezing rain, ice, snow, wind, and muck.

Just clean your gun and you'll have no problems. I never have.

However, if you are just looking for a way to somehow justify a new shotgun, then most anything works. I know this quite well. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:33 pm 
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you're right, I've heard you say all that before. i'm just anal about marking up, scratching or denting the wood. perhaps i am looking for a reason to buy a new one LOL.
i guess i'm wondering if anyone has had issues with them mechanically

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 Post subject: Re: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:39 pm 
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I've had many Cynergy's and still have a walnut Euro model. No problems with mine.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:45 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
Well, I wouldn't get too cranked-up over the theory of an all-weather O/U shotgun assuming you sleep indoors. I've hunted arctic Quebec a few times, as well as Manitoba-herd caribou several times, Newfoundland for moose (and spruce grouse), high volume snow geese on the St. Lawrence Seaway, etc., etc.--- exclusively with blued / walnut shotguns and rifles. This is with all kinds of rain, freezing rain, ice, snow, wind, and muck.

Just clean your gun and you'll have no problems. I never have.

However, if you are just looking for a way to somehow justify a new shotgun, then most anything works. I know this quite well. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Yep!! My "rain gun " 870! Hey, whatever works! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:55 pm 
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I’ve shot the Cynergy and I kinda like it It’s even beginning to grow on me in the looks department!
Fits me a little different but nothing that I couldn’t work out if it were my primary clay gun.


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I am a Cynergy fan and have three of them. But the balance on the composite Cynergy is completely different than on the walnut gun. So I assume that the handling would also be quite different than on the 725.

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 Post subject: Re: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:54 pm 
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Thanks Jim, I’m expecting it to be different. As I mentioned I had one years ago which I shouldn’t have sold. My thoughts are, because I use the over under several times a week at skeet and sporting clays… Why not have a hunting gun that operate similarly as opposed to semi auto where I’m picking up the empty hulls. I still shoot all winter long. Finding them in the snow really suck LOL

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 Post subject: Re: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:04 pm 
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kuffs06 wrote:
would have the cynergy for all other hunting applications which I only get out a few times a year for turkey, a walk with my dog. I do not shoot rifled slugs out of the shotgun but do have a few boxes if I'd ever need to.


How many hulls are you picking up turkey hunting? Or, just getting out a few times a year? I'm not following the logic of this one at all.

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 Post subject: Re: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:20 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
kuffs06 wrote:
would have the cynergy for all other hunting applications which I only get out a few times a year for turkey, a walk with my dog. I do not shoot rifled slugs out of the shotgun but do have a few boxes if I'd ever need to.


How many hulls are you picking up turkey hunting? Or, just getting out a few times a year? I'm not following the logic of this one at all.


Sorry Randy I thought I explained it before. 90% of my shooting is at the club. That being said I go rain or shine. When I get bad weather and through most of winter when it is below freezing I take my semi auto. Those are the holes I am referring to picking up. Since most of my shooting is with my over under, I thought it would make sense to have an over under as my winter beater/Hunting/bad weather club gun where I’m shooting between 6-8 boxes a session

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 Post subject: Re: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:30 pm 
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No issues with a 3.5” citori shooting trap and everything else. I don’t see why the wicked wing would be any different.

Having dedicated trap guns I rarely see more than 1-2% difference in pattern at 30 yd with the 3.5” chamber.

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 Post subject: Re: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:18 am 
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kuffs06 wrote:
Sorry Randy I thought I explained it before. 90% of my shooting is at the club. That being said I go rain or shine. When I get bad weather and through most of winter when it is below freezing I take my semi auto. Those are the holes I am referring to picking up. Since most of my shooting is with my over under, I thought it would make sense to have an over under as my winter beater/Hunting/bad weather club gun where I’m shooting between 6-8 boxes a session


No, I'm not following you at all. You've already had at least two plastic-stocked Cynergy's that you've talked about prior: (
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I had a synergy CX Composite and it wa fantastic. Before that I had a Mossi Oak shadow grass blade camouflage Cynergy. The only reason I saw that was an opportunity for a almost new used 725 sporting for a good price.
If it wasn’t for that deal I would still have it… Swung great and felt fantastic.


After owning and dumping two plastic-stocked Cynergy models, if you want to try a 3rd Cynergy that's up to you-- but you already know exactly what they are. A 'Wicked Wing' models is 0% more weatherproof that the shadow grass blade camo Cynergy you already had. Maybe the third time is the charm? :shock:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:16 am 
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Cynergy and 725 fit me completely different. Swapping between the two on a short term basis would not work for me. Not sure how you would work out getting a similar fit as the Cynergy plastic stock is hard to modify and the influx recoil pad makes adding length or spacers hard.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:32 am 
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I have a Cynergy CX and it’s my primary clays gun. Looks good and mounts perfectly for me.


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 Post subject: Re: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:46 pm 
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The wicked wing cynergy pulls up really nice and points good for me. I didn't think the balance was off (same with the synthetic CX model), the only thing I don't care for is the camo finish.

If you're looking for a bad weather O/U it would be a great choice IMO or check out the Cynergy CX if you can live with a 60/40 poi.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:32 am 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
kuffs06 wrote:
Sorry Randy I thought I explained it before. 90% of my shooting is at the club. That being said I go rain or shine. When I get bad weather and through most of winter when it is below freezing I take my semi auto. Those are the holes I am referring to picking up. Since most of my shooting is with my over under, I thought it would make sense to have an over under as my winter beater/Hunting/bad weather club gun where I’m shooting between 6-8 boxes a session


No, I'm not following you at all. You've already had at least two plastic-stocked Cynergy's that you've talked about prior: (
kuffs06 wrote:
I had a synergy CX Composite and it wa fantastic. Before that I had a Mossi Oak shadow grass blade camouflage Cynergy. The only reason I saw that was an opportunity for a almost new used 725 sporting for a good price.
If it wasn’t for that deal I would still have it… Swung great and felt fantastic.


After owning and dumping two plastic-stocked Cynergy models, if you want to try a 3rd Cynergy that's up to you-- but you already know exactly what they are. A 'Wicked Wing' models is 0% more weatherproof that the shadow grass blade camo Cynergy you already had. Maybe the third time is the charm? :shock:


Wow your good Randy. Going back and realizing what I had LOL. The first one I loved and could hit well with it as it was a 50/50 pattern. What I hated about it was the duratouch rubbery finish as it would get very sticky in the hot weather. Then I needed the money from the sale of that gun to afford my 725 at the time.
The second one being the CX composite felt great but I found the 60/40 pattern would through me off when going firm the 725 to the CX and often didn’t compensate to float the bird, especially on crossers the where dropping. As I switched back and forth from the CX to the 725 there was always some misses trying to compensate for the pattern.
I’m looking at the wicked wing since it’s a 50/50 without the dura touch.
If the CX didn’t shoot high, I’d still have it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:34 am 
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The wicked wing cynergy pulls up really nice and points good for me. I didn't think the balance was off (same with the synthetic CX model), the only thing I don't care for is the camo finish.

If you're looking for a bad weather O/U it would be a great choice IMO or check out the Cynergy CX if you can live with a 60/40 poi.

That’s my problem. I had one and the 60/40 through me off my game quite a bit. I’d be having to relearn point of impact every time I switch from one to the other

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 Post subject: Re: any thoughts on Cynergy wicked wing
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:29 pm 
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People tend to get a bit more cranked up over the theoretical "60/40" than they need to, particularly on the skeet field. Just because it says "60 / 40" on a catalog page hardly means anything.

It is more psychological than anything else. 60 / 40 is only 3 inches @ 40 yards. It affects nothing as far as skeet. Moreover, not many O/U's so much as print within 3 inches out of each barrel at 40 yards. Typical barrel regulation of a double barrel is within 4 in. @ 40 yards. If barrel regulation is within 6 inches or so at 35 - 40 yards, Beretta calls that within tolerance. If they aren't worried about 6 inches, how can 3 inches possibly be important? :shock:

The "60 / 40" O/U is largely a myth. Both barrels on an O/U are not going to shoot precisely 60/40 at 40 yards. More often than not, the upper barrel is going to shoot at least a couple of inches high on the best O/U's out there.



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