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 Post subject: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:07 am 
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Well... not really an issue with the cocking lever, just an issue with the owner and how he messed up.

Issue: New gun, to me. My first over/under... Somewhat new, less than a year old, not very many rounds put through it. Maybe only a few thousand

I was getting familiar with it by removing the barrel and reassembling it so I am comfortable with the process. Anyhow... I somehow knocked the cocking lever in the action to the down position.

Of course I cannot get the barrel on now. That cocking lever needs to be up, doesn't it?

How do I get it to go back up? Is there a release other than the top lever? Do I need to add some muscle to it?

I cannot be the first person this has happened to. This has to be something simple.

Just want to make sure I know what I'm doing...



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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:11 am 
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Use a tool (screwdriver) to pry it up. Doesnt take a lot of force. Wont be the last time you do it

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:20 am 
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md2020 wrote:
Well... not really an issue with the cocking lever, just an issue with the owner and how he messed up.

Issue: New gun, to me. My first over/under... Somewhat new, less than a year old, not very many rounds put through it. Maybe only a few thousand

I was getting familiar with it by removing the barrel and reassembling it so I am comfortable with the process. Anyhow... I somehow knocked the cocking lever in the action to the down position.

Of course I cannot get the barrel on now. That cocking lever needs to be up, doesn't it?

How do I get it to go back up? Is there a release other than the top lever? Do I need to add some muscle to it?

I cannot be the first person this has happened to. This has to be something simple.

Just want to make sure I know what I'm doing...


NO. The cocking lever doesn't need to be up at all. And don't even think of using a tool to pry up on it!

Just hold the top lever to the right as you rotate the barrels onto/into the receiver. Easy peasey.

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:31 am 
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cfoster wrote:
Use a tool (screwdriver) to pry it up. Doesnt take a lot of force. Wont be the last time you do it

That's what I thought I should do. Wasn't sure... Was going to move the top lever to the right, then use something to put some pressure on it. Maybe a long wooden rod so I don't mar it up any. I'm not sure how much pressure is necessary
Ulysses wrote:

NO. The cocking lever doesn't need to be up at all. And don't even think of using a tool to pry up on it!

Just hold the top lever to the right as you rotate the barrels onto/into the receiver. Easy peasey.


Are we talking about the same thing here. That cocking lever, in the bottom of the action, is in the way, preventing the barrel from locking into place. It has to move up or it will not slide into the recess on the bottom of the barrel.

Are you saying that moving the top lever to the right will cause it to move up.

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:08 pm 
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md2020 wrote:
cfoster wrote:
Use a tool (screwdriver) to pry it up. Doesnt take a lot of force. Wont be the last time you do it

That's what I thought I should do. Wasn't sure... Was going to move the top lever to the right, then use something to put some pressure on it. Maybe a long wooden rod so I don't mar it up any. I'm not sure how much pressure is necessary
Ulysses wrote:

NO. The cocking lever doesn't need to be up at all. And don't even think of using a tool to pry up on it!

Just hold the top lever to the right as you rotate the barrels onto/into the receiver. Easy peasey.


Are we talking about the same thing here. That cocking lever, in the bottom of the action, is in the way, preventing the barrel from locking into place. It has to move up or it will not slide into the recess on the bottom of the barrel.

Are you saying that moving the top lever to the right will cause it to move up.


Unless the 725 is different from the older Citoris in how it locks up (and I don't think it is), then the cocking lever does not need to be up. Did you try what I suggested?

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:35 pm 
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md2020 wrote:
cfoster wrote:
Use a tool (screwdriver) to pry it up. Doesnt take a lot of force. Wont be the last time you do it

That's what I thought I should do. Wasn't sure... Was going to move the top lever to the right, then use something to put some pressure on it. Maybe a long wooden rod so I don't mar it up any. I'm not sure how much pressure is necessary
Ulysses wrote:

NO. The cocking lever doesn't need to be up at all. And don't even think of using a tool to pry up on it!

Just hold the top lever to the right as you rotate the barrels onto/into the receiver. Easy peasey.


Are we talking about the same thing here. That cocking lever, in the bottom of the action, is in the way, preventing the barrel from locking into place. It has to move up or it will not slide into the recess on the bottom of the barrel.

Are you saying that moving the top lever to the right will cause it to move up.


You are quite confused. The cocking lever doesn't slide into anything. The locking bolt at the bottom of the open receiver is what slides into the recess on the bottom of the barrels.

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:50 pm 
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md2020,

Have you checked the cocking lever lifter? That's the little piece on the bottom of the barrels that slides back and forth under spring pressure. It is supposed to be FORWARD, but it may have gotten stuck rearward due to grit or dirt.

Push that little slide forward. It should stay forward. Then, when assembling the barrels to the receiver, position them in place as always, then begin rotating them closed. When they hit something and stop, simply push the top lever to the right and then continue to close the barrels. Release the top lever once the barrels close. Done.

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:27 pm 
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Ulysses wrote:

You are quite confused. The cocking lever doesn't slide into anything. The locking bolt at the bottom of the open receiver is what slides into the recess on the bottom of the barrels.


fwiw... this gun was fine until I put my grubby paws on it


so am I saying it wrong. I'm new at this. Is it the locking bolt I am referring to? the one in the bottom of the receiver/action is what I am referring to.

this is what I'm referring to at the bottom of the action. I call it the cocking lever. That's what its called on the browning parts diagram.

(btw... this is NOT my gun, just a picture)
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Next picture is how it looks when it cannot close because the cocking lever is in the way.
(not my gun, just a picture)
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This part on the bottom of my barrel moves back and forth freely
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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:21 pm 
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Why don't you do the simple procedure that I suggested several posts back? Try it and tell me what happens. In case you missed it, here it is again.

"Just hold the top lever to the right as you rotate the barrels onto/into the receiver."

That's it in a nutshell. Try it and tell me what happens.

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:02 pm 
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When I reinstall the barrels on my Citori, I hold the top lever to the right for the gun to close. That's how it works.
Just sayin'.

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:10 pm 
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Ulysses wrote:
Why don't you do the simple procedure that I suggested several posts back? Try it and tell me what happens. In case you missed it, here it is again.

"Just hold the top lever to the right as you rotate the barrels onto/into the receiver."

That's it in a nutshell. Try it and tell me what happens.


I do in fact plan to try what you suggested. Can't try it until next week though.

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:49 pm 
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T-Pee wrote:
When I reinstall the barrels on my Citori, I hold the top lever to the right for the gun to close. That's how it works.
Just sayin'.

tp


I do the same , Hold the lever over it then assemble

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:18 am 
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md2020 wrote:
This part on the bottom of my barrel moves back and forth freely
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That sliding dohicky should be extended towards the muzzle, not extended to the chamber.

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:43 am 
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md2020 wrote:
This part on the bottom of my barrel moves back and forth freely
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That sliding dohicky should be extended towards the muzzle, not extended to the chamber.


Good catch! I mentioned that yesterday in one of my posts, but I failed to pick up on it in the picture. That illustrates one of the problems of trying to troubleshoot a gun problem when the OP doesn't even have the gun in his possession. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:22 am 
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seb7515 wrote:
md2020 wrote:
This part on the bottom of my barrel moves back and forth freely
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That sliding dohicky should be extended towards the muzzle, not extended to the chamber.



Understood. the dohicky needs to be forward.

will check when I get back home in a two weeks.

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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:00 pm 
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Hold the action opening lever to the right and pull the cocking lever up at the same time. While holding the cocking lever up, release the action lever with your thumb. That should hold the cocking lever up.
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 Post subject: Re: Citori 725 Cocking Lever Issue
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:52 pm 
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md2020 wrote:
seb7515 wrote:
md2020 wrote:
This part on the bottom of my barrel moves back and forth freely
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That sliding dohicky should be extended towards the muzzle, not extended to the chamber.



Understood. the dohicky needs to be forward.

will check when I get back home in a two weeks.


I had the same issue a couple of years ago and found something on the internet (of course can't find it again now) that showed how to "slide the dohicky" so that it no longer impedes the action. If memory serves, I used a pencil to firmly (but without forcing it) to slide it and that did the trick. Good luck!



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