ShotGunWorld Shotguns

It is currently Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:02 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:55 am 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:27 pm
Posts: 153
I just started to shoot trap with my Cynergy CX. It handles pretty well. In the past, I primarily shot skeet (about 22-23 each game). I’ve been able to shoot about 10 rounds in the 18-21 range. Of course, now I want to shoot better. Would adding a rib help?




Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:39 am 
Limited Edition

Joined: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:29 am
Posts: 417
Location: Port St Lucie FL
I would recommend taking your time and do a lot more trap shooting before looking at the gun at all.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:21 pm 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*

Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:52 pm
Posts: 5412
Location: Miami Florida and The Republic of Panama
Wowzer wrote:
I just started to shoot trap with my Cynergy CX. It handles pretty well. In the past, I primarily shot skeet (about 22-23 each game). I’ve been able to shoot about 10 rounds in the 18-21 range. Of course, now I want to shoot better. Would adding a rib help?

No but adding an adjustable comb would.
I know several people who have broken into Trap with those Cynergy CX's
and they are doing very well.

_________________
America First


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:31 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:27 pm
Posts: 153
Jaspo01 wrote:
No but adding an adjustable comb would.
I know several people who have broken into Trap with those Cynergy CX's
and they are doing very well.



If I get an adjustable comb, would that mean I would be higher up on the gun? As it stands right now, when I mount the gun, I am looking down the barrel and see the figure 8 (or snowman) of the mid to front bead. Should I see more separation between the beads (ie have the gun shoot higher)?

I dont think I need a cast on this gun...in fact, the main reason I bought it was because it seemed to fit me best. My question about the adjustable rib was if I needed to point the front higher for trap?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:39 am 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:22 pm
Posts: 11069
Location: Athens,TX.
Wowzer wrote:
If I get an adjustable comb, would that mean I would be higher up on the gun? As it stands right now, when I mount the gun, I am looking down the barrel and see the figure 8 (or snowman) of the mid to front bead. Should I see more separation between the beads (ie have the gun shoot higher)?


Check the current POA/POI via a pattern board and go from there-any thing else is just a guess.

_________________
Jerry

TSRA LIFE MEMBER
NSCA #610xxx

Rose City Clays - Tyler TX
5H Shooting Sports Frankston TX ( Formally the Chicken Ranch)
Caney Creek- Teague TX


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:05 am 
Field Grade

Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:21 pm
Posts: 73
Certainly need to pattern it. Two years ago I’d never have seen a need for an adjustable comb on a shotgun but after shooting at a pattern board I’m finding that as the best way to adjust poi.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:13 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:27 pm
Posts: 153
loneranger wrote:
Certainly need to pattern it. Two years ago I’d never have seen a need for an adjustable comb on a shotgun but after shooting at a pattern board I’m finding that as the best way to adjust poi.


I just got new chokes for my gun. I wonder if it will pattern the same as my older chokes. Thanks for the reminder!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:27 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:27 pm
Posts: 153
This weekend, only 18, 18, 18. It was very gusty; sometimes the bird went low, then other times it flew sky high. Very fun!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:46 am 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*

Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:52 pm
Posts: 5412
Location: Miami Florida and The Republic of Panama
Wowzer wrote:
This weekend, only 18, 18, 18. It was very gusty; sometimes the bird went low, then other times it flew sky high. Very fun!

We call that poor man's Wobble.

_________________
America First


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:33 pm 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*

Joined: Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:01 pm
Posts: 6824
I like my adjustable comb. I set it higher for trap, lower for 5 stand and sporting clays. I do have a little offset in it also. But...before you do anything pattern the gun to see where it is shooting now. Then play with some tape and cardboard to see if a higher comb would help. Then send it in if needed.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:19 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:27 pm
Posts: 153
I'm just stuck at 18-19. Today, I shot 18-18-19. Funny thing is that the puller said that I shot good. The other guys were all shooting 11's and 12's. I think those guys were just newbs.

The weird thing is that I sometimes will miss the easy shots, directly away from me. I can't determine if I'm shooting those too high, low, left, or right.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:04 pm 
Limited Edition

Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:00 pm
Posts: 313
It’s not the gun!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:17 am 
Field Grade

Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:20 pm
Posts: 59
You'll see plateaus, but just stick with it, and take a lesson, if you can. I've fallen into some bad habits that helped jump a couple of clays very quickly, but are ultimately going to hurt me, so I'm going through a process of relearning before they become ingrained.

Even if you can't take a lesson, have a buddy watch your shots. It's usually pretty easy for an onlooker up near the line to see the wads, which can often indicate where you missed.

If you're like me, you may have a tendency to try to aim like you're using a rifle. I can tell I'm doing that when one of two things happens:

1. I find myself yanking the barrel at the end of the shot to try to push or pull it back on target (feels like I'm doing a little loop with the barrel end)
2. I miss the straight-dead easy slow ones (because I have time to think about it) but hit the fast-moving wingers (because I just have time to react and can't overthink) -- I've heard this can be an issue for some skeet shooters who try trap and think "Wow--I have so much more time and only one target! I an really take my time and--oh. I guess I missed." No idea if that's true, since I'm about to make the jump the other way and try skeet (probably with a Cynergy CX with an adjustable comb, actually!).

FWIW, my current trap gun is an old "high shooter" BT-99 with an 80/20 POI (fixed full chokes), so the 60/40 POI on that CX of yours isn't abnormally high for trap, at least, since the birds are always rising. With my gun, I just got used to being able to see the target clearly when I squeeze. I love it. Some people hate it (which is why Browning only made the high shooters for 2 years).

But if it helps you feel better about your shooting, when I bought my MEC Jr. reloading press (used), there was an old card from the 70s in there that said something like "The average hunter shoots an 11 to 13 on the trap field. Can you do better?" If you could, you sent in a signed card and they sent you back a hat. So you just started and you're already better than most shotgunners.

And remember--this is SO MUCH BETTER than golf, because you can still hit more than you miss even when you're new! Plus, guns, and exploding targets, and doing the cool pose with the shotgun broken over your shoulder like you're some kind of British gentry!


Wowzer wrote:
I'm just stuck at 18-19. Today, I shot 18-18-19. Funny thing is that the puller said that I shot good. The other guys were all shooting 11's and 12's. I think those guys were just newbs.

The weird thing is that I sometimes will miss the easy shots, directly away from me. I can't determine if I'm shooting those too high, low, left, or right.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:56 am 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:27 pm
Posts: 153
I shot 17 then 19 on my first 2 games.

I then tried to shoot with my remington V3 and completely missed on the first 2 stations (I quickly switched back to the Cynergy CX on the remaining 3 stations and shot 13).

I still seem to miss the straight aways. On the 17 score, I missed 4 straight aways. How in the world do I miss such an easy shot? I tried to shoot high, then low, and still can't seem to hit them reliably. Is there a way to practice these straight aways?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:48 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:27 pm
Posts: 153
Ugh. Today I shot 17, 15, 16. I really sucked the big one.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:57 pm 
Tournament Grade
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:14 pm
Posts: 240
Location: Tyler Tx
It’ll come man. And once it does, it will become muscle memory. I shot heavily for 3 years and still never managed to run 100 straight even though I had numerous 75’s straight and 99 totals in tournaments. But it’s a mental block. Once you get past that and shoot your first straight, you’ll see they come much more frequently until you shoot a whole lot more 25’s than 24’s.

I got bored with it and went back to shooting USPSA and steel challenge because I like running and gunning as well, but the sight picture memory stays and I went back once after not having shot for 4 years and by the second round the memory was back and I was breaking 22-23 a round.

With the sudden ridiculous primer and 22lr shortage, there is an abundance of 2 gauge so back to shotgun sports I go and I only use my pistol ammo in actual matches and no longer for practice because I don’t have enough to spare.

So stick with it man, it will come. You may actually want a higher shooting gun, you may be missing under the ones you are missing and not realize it. I shot a BT99 or a 682 trap for most of my trap shooting (started with a Remington 1100 classic trap which shot 60/40) and when I started getting used to the higher shooting 70/80 above guns, I shot much more consistently because I could see the target easily the entire time as it’s rising.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

_________________
USMC 1996-2007
NRA Life Member
ATA annual member


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:27 pm 
Tournament Grade
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2004 7:35 pm
Posts: 151
Location: Pocono Mountains, PA
Wowzer wrote:
I still seem to miss the straight aways. On the 17 score, I missed 4 straight aways. How in the world do I miss such an easy shot? I tried to shoot high, then low, and still can't seem to hit them reliably. Is there a way to practice these straight aways?

Seems to me the gun is shooting too low for you to "keep an eye on it" because when you have it centered, you have to cover the bird. An adjustable comb will allow you to keep the bird at or above the front bead. (you can add some cardboard with tape to raise POI until you decide to have one added).
Mike B

_________________
"When you have to shoot, SHOOT... don't talk!" -- Tuco


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:10 am 
Limited Edition

Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:00 pm
Posts: 313
Wowser,

Are your straightaway misses mostly at a particular station?

Even at station 3, the straightaways are rarely truly straight away. There is usually a slight curl either left or right - which require compensation.

With respect to the need for a higher shooting gun for trap, plenty of great scores have been shot with Remington 870’s and 1100’s, neither of which are typically much more than 60/40 depending on the shooter.

There is an old saying in sports: “It’s a mistake to blame equipment for a training problem”. Since you have decent scores at skeet, I would predict that you can learn to do as well at trap.

There is a lot to be learned about setup and timing. One can find lots of good information online about setup tactics - which can really help.

Once I started focussing on sporting clays I moved to a 50/50 gun - away from a higher shooting dedicated trap gun. Trap type targets are found on a sporting clays course as well a skeet type and many others. With the 50/50 gun I can still do respectable scores at trap. For me it requires proper setup and timing - timing means taking the birds on the rise and all at nearly the same time after “pull”


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:12 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:27 pm
Posts: 153
I reshot today. 23 and 21! I realized late yesterday that probably had less cheek weld, give the change in weather (more clothes) and that I also began to lift weights and can feel my pecs are bigger. I really held the in close and broke most straight aways.

Let’s see next week how good my scores are...but I’m hopeful.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Shooting trap w Cynergy CX
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:33 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:27 pm
Posts: 153
Malcolm7 wrote:
Wowser,

Are your straightaway misses mostly at a particular station?

Even at station 3, the straightaways are rarely truly straight away. There is usually a slight curl either left or right - which require compensation.

With respect to the need for a higher shooting gun for trap, plenty of great scores have been shot with Remington 870’s and 1100’s, neither of which are typically much more than 60/40 depending on the shooter.

There is an old saying in sports: “It’s a mistake to blame equipment for a training problem”. Since you have decent scores at skeet, I would predict that you can learn to do as well at trap.

There is a lot to be learned about setup and timing. One can find lots of good information online about setup tactics - which can really help.



I seem to have my worst scores on station 3. On my 21 today, I missed 3 birds at station 3. And on my 23, it was a bird on 3 and on 5.




Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Registered users: 9fingers, Aaron871, Bakerloo, Barmaleykin, bbush, BE Chuter, biblethumpncop, BigDeeeeeeee, Bing [Bot], birdhunter39, brnzbk, CapHillSkt, Cookr21, Curly N, dannyd93140, DavySprocket, dcr5468, deadbirddown, det1, dukman22, ellisjre, EricB, F*W*F, faust2, fish2keel, FISHNFRANK, Fitasc2, FTRPILOT, Galaxy Flyer, geometric, gomerdog, Good to Go, Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Google Feedfetcher, Gringo7718, gthudspeth, hammontw, hopper810, JacksBack, Jasonallen, jbmich, Jim H, jimgw, JOHN7069, johnnie g, jusanothajoe, Keperkey, KRIEGHOFFK80, kyskeet, loneranger, Lowbar83, Maine Man, mb94, Merganser, misterdom, MitchRapp13, NailNinja, Novak77, noweil, Oldandrusty, outdoorbum, PeterAVanTassell, Pmollo, pops78, Rack-N-Roy, Road Rat, RPRNY, Rudolph31, shacked, sherpa guide, Shotguncockersp, Stk218, T-Pee, toledoUPSguy, Tonybart55, TYSS08, USAFA71, Westender, wkirk, wrfish, YevetS


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group    - DMCA Notice