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 Post subject: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:32 pm 
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I know the issue with the firing pins on the the 725's has been talked about a lot so I'm well aware there are problems. I looked at the bottom pin on my 725 Pro Sporting and it is showing some pitting on the tip but not to the point that it is giving me problems. My question is are the aftermarket firing pins any better than the OEM pins from Browning. I can change them myself. Just wondering if there is anything out there that will hold up any better. My 725 has around 10K rounds thru it and it's been a mix of ammo.




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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:02 am 
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You can get pins for your 725 here.

https://www.jnpgunsprings.com/

I have no direct experience with the 725 pins, but the pins I got for my Blaser have been very durable. 20k so far and no visible deterioration.

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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:13 am 
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jwgworld wrote:
You can get pins for your 725 here.

https://www.jnpgunsprings.com/

I have no direct experience with the 725 pins, but the pins I got for my Blaser have been very durable. 20k so far and no visible deterioration.


I second that. Funny enough I have these same pins in my Blaser as well with about the same round count and they look good as new.

I don't own a 725 or have much experience with them but I would say if your primers are still going bang and you have never had an issue then a little pitting is fine. But on the other hand for $50-$60 you can just order your self a new set from J&P that will most likely last a lifetime.


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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:01 am 
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Browning Pins from factory at $7-- last the same amount of time compared to JnP Pins. I have used both, and both wore out to the point of FTF in bottom barrel . I since have learned not to use shells with "HARD" primers(Cheddite). So any shells without the hard primers pins hold up well.
JnP pins and spring kit approx $60 bucks
Browning Pins and springs from Browning about $20 or less.
JnP told me the pins will not last if your experiencing burn through of primers(hard Primers). so after 2 sets of JnP I'm back to OEM Browning pins and Rem, or Federal shells no more problems on bottom pin. Top pin never was trouble no matter what shells I shot.

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https://www.browning.com/content/dam/br ... erform.pdf

https://www.browning.com/content/dam/br ... ri-725.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:19 am 
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J&P pins all the way; wear much better than stock.

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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:06 am 
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All, i have two 725's my son and I shoot, like most everyone else we have pin pitting issues.
The original set of pins lasted around 5k rounds shoot all types of shells.
We then switched to JNP pins and springs, those lasted maybe 500 rounds.
So I removed those pins, and shortened the lower by .007" and the upper .005" to remove the pitting and give them a clean round profile. Those lasted around 5k rounds. The lower is now pitting and the upper holding up ok.
Now I just ordered new pins from Browning, they are under $40 shipped to my house for 3 sets of upper and lowers.
Interestingly the new pins from Browning are almost .010" shorter than the already shortened JNP pins.


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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:17 am 
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rbdjr wrote:
Browning Pins from factory at $7-- last the same amount of time compared to JnP Pins. I have used both, and both wore out to the point of FTF in bottom barrel . I since have learned not to use shells with "HARD" primers(Cheddite). So any shells without the hard primers pins hold up well.
JnP pins and spring kit approx $60 bucks
Browning Pins and springs from Browning about $20 or less.
JnP told me the pins will not last if your experiencing burn through of primers(hard Primers). so after 2 sets of JnP I'm back to OEM Browning pins and Rem, or Federal shells no more problems on bottom pin. Top pin never was trouble no matter what shells I shot.

Fax in order and they ship fast! You may then fax it to our Toll Free Fax Number:
1-800-817-4755
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https://www.browning.com/content/dam/br ... erform.pdf

https://www.browning.com/content/dam/br ... ri-725.pdf



That's odd you did not have any luck with the J&P's but I guess good to know for the OP. Personally I have about 20k rounds on my J&P's and they still look new but these are in a Blaser. Maybe they are a better fix for the Blaser than the Browning.


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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:47 am 
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I called JnP and ask them about it as they lasted only 1200 rounds and the other lasted 1500 rounds, they told me straight up they cant warranty the pins and they could do nothing to cure my problem, only not to shoot Cheddite primers, by the way Browning told me the same thing, the factory pins last approx the same amount of time, Browning told me do not shoot hard primers from lower barrel and I wont have the problem, After 2 people told me I now have 3000 rounds since using only Remington and Federal shells, same pin(factory pin. eye opener they both were right on, biggest difference is price Browning's are dirt cheap, I bought 4 to keep in my case as I could change on the spot if needed with a small punch, Allen wrench. its easy once you change 6 pins. Stay Well

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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:41 pm 
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I appreciate everyone's response to my question. I guess now I have a decision to make! :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:06 pm 
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Hard primers ruined my stock pins, changed to J&P and had some flats to use up with the hard primers...bottom pin developed a scar, but that was it.
If one stays away from known hard primers and upgrades to J&P just to be sure, one less thing to worry about.

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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
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I needed pins for my Euro Cynergy and Browning said they were backordered. So I got J&P.

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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:58 pm 
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I've read the stories about citori owners and their firing pin problems.

Many of those stories are out there and are easy to find. The story that's harder to find is the one where the citori owners say that they are shooting reloads with cheddite primers and they have never had a problem with excessive wear on the lower firing pins.

Where is those stories?

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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:44 pm 
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J&P pin are longer than OEM, and yes they did not last as long as the factory pins for me. But alot more $$

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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:54 pm 
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The bottom pin on Browning 325-725 O/U guns strikes the primer at about a 45 degree angle from above. The pin hits the primer at the top of the nose of the pin and that part is what gets worn and deformed.

The top pin hits at a 90 degree angle and very seldom ever wears out.

It was designed that way so the hammers could be inline so they function similarly in how they are cocked , released, and sprung.


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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:41 am 
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Is this Cheddit primer thing just a problem for Browning guns? I shoot two Brownings and three Fabarms. I just bought 4 thousand Cheddit primers as that was all I was lucky enough to find.


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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:36 pm 
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wrfish wrote:
Is this Cheddit primer thing just a problem for Browning guns? I shoot two Brownings and three Fabarms. I just bought 4 thousand Cheddit primers as that was all I was lucky enough to find.

Bad for O/U Browning, Rizzini and K guns. Those are the ones from my experience, maybe more.


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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:02 pm 
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What brands of shotgun shells use cheddite primers?


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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:08 am 
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The problem is caused by the angle of the bottom firing pin hitting the primer and hard euro- trash primers on ammo. Once a pin gets damaged you will pierce all brands of primers and ammo and get FTF. The problem is common in guns that have a deep underbite action, like a Browning and others. So you have a choice, use cheap ammo and primers and pay for pins or use ammo like AA, STS etc.


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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:22 am 
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I've got a 725 sporter with about 30k rounds thru it and my bottom pin would pit as well. I was using Rio ammo at the time. Same as you it didn't cause any failure to fire issues, but I decided to change the bottom pin out with a factory Browning pin and change to aguila ammo just to see if would make a difference. After a season with Aguila the same issue only not quite as bad as with Rio's. Never, in either instance did I have any failure to fires.

So... I would simply buy a couple bottom pins from Browning (they're cheap) just to have them on hand and just keep shooting it. If you eventually have an issue with failure to fire then simply change out the pin, it's rather easy.

Plus you'll likely want to take the pins out at some point to clean out the firing pin channels anyway which allows you change them out if you so desire.

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 Post subject: Re: 725 firing pins
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:19 pm 
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Birdshooter has it correct. I 2nd all he said.



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