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 Post subject: Auto-5
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:08 pm 
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I've never owned an Auto-5 and don't know much about them. I was randomly looking at them on gunbroker and was shocked by the bidding on one particular gun. What's special about this one in that when I posted this it has 5 days left and is at $3,200 with 35 bids? That seems insanely high for one of these. Is it just post-election, gun-buying mania or is there something special about this gun? Thanks.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/888935984




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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:43 pm 
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The gun is being sold as a new condition Sweet Sixteen, and such a collectible would fetch upwards of $2000. But... I have my doubts about this shotgun.

Either the original engraver had a very light hand, or the gun has been polished and re-blued. If it has been restored, it’s worth a fraction of the current bid. The seller has another Sweet in excellent condition that’s currently at $740.

Compare the engraving to this picture of my 1938 Sweet Sixteen:

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His engraving looks washed out to me. I’m not certain, because otherwise it looks brand new.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:14 pm 
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Thanks. I've been kind of thinking about getting a Light Twelve or Sweet Sixteen Auto-5 for a few years, but just haven't pulled the trigger, mainly because I don't much about them and have other guns.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:50 am 
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I had other guns too, but now I rarely shoot anything but an Auto-5. There is plenty of information right here on this site, and on browningowners.com to fill a book.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:13 am 
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OP is right. I have watched many sales of pristine condition Sweet 16s but this one without the box does seem to be commanding an unusually high price! :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:30 am 
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These guns have a cult following wrapped in nostalgia. I had one of these in very nice condition and gave it to my son in law because I was unimpressed with it

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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:41 am 
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casonet wrote:
These guns have a cult following wrapped in nostalgia. I had one of these in very nice condition and gave it to my son in law because I was unimpressed with it


This is true, but I have made a couple of previously A-5 haters into admirers by simply teaching them how to set friction rings and correct type and amount of lubrication. However, I agree that many either like the A-5 or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:19 pm 
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Oh, don’t get me wrong. I DO like them and I have a 12 and a 20. I just don’t like them to the point of what people are willing to pay for a sweet 16.

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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:04 pm 
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I have a co-worker who has been collecting A-5's for thirty years. more than a dozen . I tell Him how much they are going for now and His expression is just :shock: :shock: I got My first one two years ago pretty cheap and am glad I did , now they are out of sight.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:33 pm 
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After many years of admiring Auto-5s, I finally scored a Light Twelve and later on a Sweet Sixteen. They were nice guns and I liked them a lot, but couldn't hit a damn thing with either one. I finally gave up and sold both with no regrets. I still think A5s are fine, well made shotguns, they're just not for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:59 pm 
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Does anyone have an opinion on the engraving?


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:04 pm 
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Rudolph31 wrote:
Does anyone have an opinion on the engraving?



I agree with you Rudolph31 that the engraving does seem to be quite "light" and not of a consistent depth. However, it is hard for me to tell with any certainty from those pictures. You have a bunch to look at so can better tell. Good catch!

If that gun was redone in any way, some one is making a KILLING at the selling price!


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:16 pm 
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I sold a Winchester high grade 42 that was a fake and told the buyer so, but he bought it anyway for ridiculous money

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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:00 pm 
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casonet wrote:
I sold a Winchester high grade 42 that was a fake and told the buyer so, but he bought it anyway for ridiculous money


That is ethical and 100% o.k.

However, this seller has not disclosed any potential rework. Maybe there wasn't any but Rudolph31 has a very experienced and trained eye with A-5s, soooo?


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:38 pm 
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oyeme wrote:
Rudolph31 wrote:
Does anyone have an opinion on the engraving?

If that gun was redone in any way, some one is making a KILLING at the selling price!


Even if it’s 100% real, they’re making a killing!


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:11 am 
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While I would love to play with an Auto-5. I’m not in at that price. That is getting close to lower end Winchester 21 pricing.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:42 am 
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DesertMuleDeer wrote:
While I would love to play with an Auto-5. I’m not in at that price. That is getting close to lower end Winchester 21 pricing.


Well, the seller had another nice Sweet Sixteen that sold for $840.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:53 pm 
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Was the otherone a Sweet Sixteen or just a 16 gauge Auto-5? I didn't think it was a Sweet Sixteen but may be wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:42 pm 
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DesertMuleDeer wrote:
Was the otherone a Sweet Sixteen or just a 16 gauge Auto-5? I didn't think it was a Sweet Sixteen but may be wrong.


You’re right. Silly mistake, but a damned nice shotgun.


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 Post subject: Re: Auto-5
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:20 am 
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I’ve looked at the crazy prices he’s getting for his other stuff. Like a flat of Herter’s 16 gauge shells for $155. I think it’s a money laundering operation.




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